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Question for veterans Iraq/Afghanistan
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:21 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:21 am
When did the Bronze star become a participation trophy for officers?
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:24 am to Strannix
About 2008
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:30 am to Strannix
You get a bronze star!
You get a bronze star!
And You get a bronze star!
You get a bronze star!
And You get a bronze star!
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:37 am to TrueTiger
Lol there's not one of these REMF pols who didn't get a bronze star, Beau Biden 
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:39 am to Strannix
Before those wars even. I'd say Desert Shield/Desert Storm. And it isn't just officers. Unless it is for valor.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:40 am to Strannix
It always was. There is a bronze star for achievement or merit and a bronze star for valor.
World War II: 395,380 recipients
Korean War: 30,359 recipients
Vietnam War: 719,969 recipients: 549,343 for achievement and service and 170,626 for valor
Operation Iraqi Freedom: 102,345 recipients: 99,886 for achievement and service and 2,459 for valor
World War II: 395,380 recipients
Korean War: 30,359 recipients
Vietnam War: 719,969 recipients: 549,343 for achievement and service and 170,626 for valor
Operation Iraqi Freedom: 102,345 recipients: 99,886 for achievement and service and 2,459 for valor
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 6:43 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:41 am to Strannix
Actually, in 2003 it became a participation trophy. ARCOMs and BSMs were given out to everyone with BSMs going to some senior NCOs and most, if not all captains and above. Some LTs too.
A BSM is really equivalent to a MSM in a combat zone. This is not to be confused with a BSM with a valor device. You actually have to do something for the “V”
A BSM is really equivalent to a MSM in a combat zone. This is not to be confused with a BSM with a valor device. You actually have to do something for the “V”
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:41 am to Strannix
It's a joke. It's sad that it doesn't hold the same value it once did. A V device on a Bronze Star is when i start to pay attention.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:46 am to Strannix
Most officers are like most politicians. Arrogant and self-centered and like to stroke each other’s egos. That’s all the bronze star is, a certified hand job in most cases.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:48 am to Strannix
quote:
When did the Bronze star become a participation trophy for officers?
1990 to 1991...
It went into hyperdrive post 2001...
Without the "V", it is just another achievement medal...
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:07 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
Comments like these are the ones I love the most...
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:08 am to Strannix
2005, E-7 and above got them for showing up, people who had jobs that kept them in the wire were at least as decorated or better decorated than those in combat
If someone has a Bronze Star and no V I assume it was for showing up and nothing more
If someone has a Bronze Star and no V I assume it was for showing up and nothing more
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:10 am to Wolfhound45
I’ve always enjoyed the enlisted man’s resentment of officers.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:13 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
quote:
Most officers are like most politicians. Arrogant and self-centered and like to stroke each other’s egos
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:21 am to GnashRebel
I believe you’re confusing resentment with disdain.
There are many great officers out there, but the duds are the ones that stick out.
There are many great officers out there, but the duds are the ones that stick out.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:25 am to BlueFalcon
quote:
someone has a Bronze Star and no V I assume it was for showing up and nothing more
While true, just be careful saying “nothing more.”
Not all engagements and bravery led to medals. And some leaders didn’t frick up putting their men in harms way which often led to either them or their men having to do something courageous to save the day.
A MOH awardee spoke to me nearly 2 decades ago on the event that led to his award. He said the only reason he had the award was due to screw ups in planning. He never should have been in that position. And yes some of the bad planning was on his part. But he acted incredibly brave to save the day.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:34 am to Wolfhound45
I'll add to it. There needs to be a GD purge. The Vindman's and yes Mattises of the world need to get the hell gone.
Disloyal SOB's, political bastards and Obama buttsmoochers are going to cost us one day, and dearly. hell they already have.
Get them out of the military. We need leaders, and they ain't that.
Disloyal SOB's, political bastards and Obama buttsmoochers are going to cost us one day, and dearly. hell they already have.
Get them out of the military. We need leaders, and they ain't that.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 7:36 am
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:36 am to Strannix
frick if I know. I earned mine as an E6 running gun trucks securing friendly convoys and dismounting, I wasn't an expert Infantry guy just a regular truck driver thrown into Gun Truck Commander/CET Commander position.
Had a helluva time.
Had a helluva time.
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:37 am to Strannix
Most officers get bullshite medals. I have seen enlisted guys work their tails off with no medal in sight. While officers write each other up for them all the time.
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