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re: Question for Iran war supporters

Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:41 am to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17692 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:41 am to
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The DSA thanks you for their W


Trump asked voters to vote like he was in the ballot.
They did.

Thank trump for democrat support not me. I vote in Louisiana.

And btw, trump used to be a democrat.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
102350 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:44 am to
This is a blockade not a war

If its a war then its the most boring war of all time

You voted for the DSA cause you have a mangina.

You should be celebrating your Win not crying like a karen
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39533 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:49 am to
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So everyone agrees that Afghanistan was a war


No. It was not.


Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39533 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:53 am to
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It’s massively expensive


Defense spending is less than the interest on our (Democrat fueled) debt.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142372 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:55 am to
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Question for Iran war supporters
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For sake of reference
At Trumps election-night victory speech, he reiterated:
"I'm not going to start a war. I'm going to stop wars."
The problem here resides in your premise. Your premise is (a) Trump started this war, and (b) the actions taken in Iran did not prevent a larger, more devastating war.

While it is certainly fine to take those positions, the flaw is in your assumption that they are absolute representation of fact. They may be. They may not be.

The absolute fact is that we don't know what Intel was provided to the president once he stepped into office. My presumption would be the president was presented with some pretty dire and unexpected circumstances warranting immediate action. I don't know that for a fact, but it would be my presumption.

Hypothetically, if a president entered office promising "no new wars," and then was faced with a clear and present danger to US national security, how important would it be to you that the president ignore the existential threat, and instead firmly adhere to every letter of his campaign promises?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17692 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:00 am to
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You voted for the DSA cause you have a mangina.


It’s becoming more and more obvious that the Trumpartisans around here lack a certain degree of maturity with a pronounced inability to differentiate the subtle and sometimes obvious differences that in positions without resorting to imbecilic posts.

Trump is not a conservative. He talks a lot of junk and that’s what you like more than anything. You don’t care what he does, moreso than what he says. He represents the party of Trump and nothing more. His positions are what he decides they are in the moment and often times they conflict with real conservative positions. He’s also blaring let corrupt. He is the swamp.

Ask yourself why you’re so blindly loyal to a man who doesn’t give a damn about you but would toss you under the bus in a heartbeat if it meant saving his backside. That’s if you mattered. But you don’t.
I suspect he reason is because you’re a beta and you’re desperate for an alpha.

Does that Ring true to you? Deep down, does Trump fill a need for male leadership?
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 7:50 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
102350 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:05 am to
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Trump is not a conservative.


No shite.

You need to look in the mirror when you talk about maturity

You have been crying for more than a decade. No one is blindly loyal to anyone

If conservatives werent such weak pathetic losers Trump would have never even come on to the scene

Think about that for a minute
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17692 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:10 am to
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Hypothetically, if a president entered office promising "no new wars," and then was faced with a clear and present danger to US national security, how important would it be to you that the president ignore the existential threat, and instead firmly adhere to every letter of his campaign promises


I’m not against war under ANY circumstance. I believe there can be just reasons for war.

As far as Iran, If the intel is legit that there is a clear and present danger, then why not present that as a rationale for going to WAR? Trump never did that.

In fact, he said we obliterated their nuclear capability in June 2025 bombing. Then he said this current attack would be short term.

I think Iran is bad and I think they’re a threat to us. Clear and present? Nah.

But They’ve declared us the great Satan. Their desire for nuclear weaponry is threatening. I have no doubt that their desire is for offensive purposes even though it would be fatalistic to them. I don’t believe that they were capable of a nuclear attack on us or anyone.

If trump had the type of Intel that he trusted which showed Iran to be a clear and present danger to us, why not just present it that way and why not attack much more forcefully than he did?. Additionally, why not engage our allies?

Trump went in half assed. Defending him on this is comically flawed.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
142372 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:14 am to
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Trump never did that.
Of course he did!
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17692 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 am to
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Of course he did!


Let’s just say he did

Why not do this with broad support both here and from our allies , and with better planning ?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25769 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:41 am to
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The question I have is for those that voted for Trump is - was your vote for Trump in part or entirely because he would use military force to attack Iran?


I had no idea this Iran war was going to happen.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20290 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:50 am to
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It's not all MAGA. The older folks (35+) support it, but the younger folks oppose it.


This is the huge issue. Most younger citizens are not educated about the damage Iran has inflicted on the US since the late 1970’s. Too young to remember the bombings in Lebanon and were brainwashed by the woke education system to hate Israel and anything to do with the Middle East. The fact they will not take the time to research/refute their professors while blindly regurgitating their talking points on social media is an issue.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20290 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:53 am to
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I support the war. I watched what they did to their own citizens in December and January. They are pure psychopaths.

My big issue was when they stopped to negotiate. Completely pointless. We destroyed their infrastructure and military, but we have no answer for pick axe mountain and they'll have nuclear capabilities in the future based out of there.

The only shot at a fix is total economic collapse and the regular military and citizens taking over and that's not likely right now.

I don't know what's going to happen when the country can't feed itself and there's no commerce. It becomes a humanitarian crisis at that point and the IRGC will kill many more.


Unfortunately there was a path to an armed rebellion but we (the Trump Admin) did not use it to appease the Turks.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20290 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:58 am to
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There’s dozens of dead and hundreds of wounded americans who would disagree. I’d love to see you stand in front of their family and explain that they died in a skirmish.


Quick question and don’t use AI: how many US service members have died due to the direct actions of the IRRG or Quds forces since the 1970’s?

To say a couple dozen is disingenuous. During my time in active duty (8 years) I saw 22 Marines die in training accidents. Let that sink in for a second.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17692 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:20 am to
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Defense spending is less than the interest on our (Democrat fueled) debt.


The debt under trump is massive. If there’s one area that he cannot run from, it’s the amount of debt he’s amassed.
I know he worked hard to lower the interest rate on future debt but he’s failed at that in a level some say we have never seen before.

One thing Trump can never flaunt is his fiscal conservatism. He’s a spender.

For sake of reference

Obama- 9.3 trillion or $1.16trill per year
DJT first - 7.8 trillion or $1.95 per year
Biden - $8.5 trillion or $3.125 per year
DJT(689 days) 2nd- $4.1 trillion or $ 2.24 per year

It’d be nice to make the kind of statement you made if the comparison was favorable but it’s not. Yeah it’s less than Biden but he was probably the worst president ever
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 9:21 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17692 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:22 am to
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conservatives werent such weak pathetic losers Trump would have never even come on to the scene


Did you vote for Romney, or McCain?
Or what about any of the bushes?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
76348 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:23 am to
We get it, you want a Muslim majority United States which means you want the US to end. Sorry for opposing that
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5989 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 9:49 am to
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This is a blockade not a war


You're right, Vance just had a typo in his Tweet when he wrote war instead of blockade. That darn auto correct function lol.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6116 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 10:11 am to
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There's no war happening.


There's no Antifa either.

Same level of buffoonery.
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 10:19 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
70331 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 10:12 am to
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There's no Antifa wither.

Same level of buffoonery.


Iran may feel like they're in a war, but we definitely aren't.
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