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re: Question for Dems re: Russia

Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:47 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133654 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 11:47 pm to
The whole "soliciting" angle is a smoke screen by the sky screamers.

The Trump campaign could legally solicit anyone, foreigners included, for any negative information on Hilliary and it would not have violated the "thing of value" prohibition in the campaign law. That's because information isn't used to raise campaign funds like selling artwork is.

The "no solicitation" clause ONLY REFERS TO SOLICITING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS from foreigners.

The altcock poster's link explains that for which I am forever in his debt.

And that's why Mueller isn't pursuing that meeting as a campaign violation. Because it isn't.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35065 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:04 am to
They are so twisted.
You didn’t do what we think is illegal but, by God, if you did then it still wouldn’t be illegal. But we’d better assemble The Muellerbot just to be sure.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 12:16 am to
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who BTW was a federal agent so he’s not some total clown.

Bongino was a member of the Secret Service. You know the low-forehead guys who guard Washington politicians. Like the bungling Nicholas Cage in the movie Guarding Tess who was one of the secret service agents guarding the ex-president's widow.

He has misrepresented the nature of his secret service activities in every politic race he has entered (and lost), suggesting his federal agent experience was comparable to being in the FBI or CIA.

So yes, he is basically a total clown.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126252 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:34 pm to
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BamaAtl
You are one sad person. If ever I am in Atlanta I am going to have to look you up and bring some joy into your miserable life.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126252 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Things of value aren't limited to money. Sucks for you and Trump, I know, but them's the rules.

The sad thing is, you truly believe that.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:00 pm to
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why Trump illegally accepted help from Russians


What exactly is illegal about getting dirt on political opponents? And why does the left continue to attack the messenger but ignore the message?

Hillary Clinton's campaign was funded by Saudi Arabia after selling a pay to play scheme to Iran. Do you have problems with that?

I do not see any of you people who act so concerned about foreign interference in our elections concerned about that.

What about Obama's order to stand down on Russian election tampering investigations?

What about his "more flexibility" hot mic moment?

Why do the left leaning people on his board never apply the same standards to both sides?

Why is no one upset at the administration in power who allowed this alleged interference to happen?

What about the federal government using its agencies, like the IRS, to selectively target citizens based on their political leanings specifically to end those citizens influence on elections? I have yet to see any outrage there.

If we are so concerned about foreign election tampering, why not evaluate the entirety of the problem rather than focus on one alleged event by one candidate while ignoring the party that was in power at the time?

If we are so concerned about election tampering why not evaluate the DNC's back door deals with the networks before debates to set Bernie up for failure? Why not discuss the rigged system that put Hillary as the candidate?

I would hope some of you have enough sense to open your eyes and realize one of two things:

One, is that we have a massive corruption issue in the federal government specifically tied to an elite group of politicians and lobbyists who work very hard to ensure they stay in power by any means necessary, and we as citizens need to stand up to this problem on both sides DNC and RNC alike. We are all Americans. Strict Political party affiliation serves only to divide and distract.

Or

Two, you do not really care at all about corruption as long as you are in power and you are justified to attack anyone who takes that power from you on any grounds as long as it ends in you taking the power back.

Be honest with yourselves.

If Trump is found guilty tomorrow of a crime against America, I will be the first one to advocate for the strictest punishment. If Obama and Hillary are found guilty of treason can you say the same?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126252 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Nguyener
You are making too much sense.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:04 pm to
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You are making too much sense.




To be fair, I have to make sense. It is two o'clock pm and I am ranting about political corruption on an internet message board where I know my pleas to logic and reason will fall on deaf and unwilling ears. That is what I am not only doing, but devoting my precious time and energy to so I certainly am not making too much cents.
Posted by TiggerB8t
Member since Oct 2013
691 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Because as most adults are aware, "collusion" in and of itself is just a word and is not a crime. Conspiring with another country to swing an election in exchange for lifting sanctions is illegal. It's not as bad as fibbing about getting a BJ. But it's still illegal.
_______________________________________________

Is it possible that Trump campaign officials were not "colluding" or "conspiring" , but rather simply "being open to seeking the truth" regarding lost emails that Clinton had improperly (if not illegally) deleted/destroyed (along with certain hardware) after getting a heads-up that the government wanted access to them - the same emails that the FBI and other agencies simply gave up on trying to find because some of their "leadership" (Comey, Strozk, others)didn't think they were worth pursuing??

Many Americans would consider this an open act of "patriotism", not collusion.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:40 pm to
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If it is shown that the meetings where members of the Trump team were approached regarding intel on Hillary were actually being driven by western intel groups ..... instead of Russians....



It won't be, because it wasn't.


I'm not going to read this entire thread, but I noticed this quote and need to address it.

Given how shady we know Loretta Lynch was, it has to at least give pause when we realize that the lawyer who requested the meeting with Trump's campaign was actually denied entry into the US until she personally intervened.

Sorry, but i do not trust anyone who worked for Obama any further than I could throw them, and I couldn't throw LOretta Lynch very far.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84884 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:42 pm to
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I couldn't throw LOretta Lynch very far.
Fat shaming!
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:56 pm to
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why there's no special counsel investigating Clinton's campaign, yet Trump's has been fricked with multiple indictments, guilty pleas, and more to come.

Care to guess how I know you are stupid? Because no indictments or guilty pleas have been issued that have anything to do with Trump's campaign. All legal actions were concerning Russian corporations or people who did something wrong years before joining the Trump campaign.



"More to come" will be when your goddess Hillary is indicted.

MAGA
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46281 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:22 pm to
I see that it hasn't been mentioned how Natalia Veselnitskaya (DOJ had to sign off) was able to enter the US for the meeting. I also did not see it mentioned where she met with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, the day before and the day after the meeting with Trump Jr.

Sounds like collusion to me...
Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:34 pm to
You can try to spin the shite show in the White House all you want. The fact that the President and his minion's get caught lying after constantly changing their stories over and over, paints a picture of someone who is trying to cover up some shite. Let's say he's not hiding something. How do you know he's telling the truth? Would you believe someone that is constantly changing their stories while getting caught in a lie after lie? I wouldn't believe a democrat, republican or the pope that does shite like that.

Jesus fricking Christ!
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46281 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:36 pm to
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You can try to spin the shite show in the White House all you want. The fact that the President and his minion's get caught lying after constantly changing their stories over and over, paints a picture of someone who is trying to cover up some shite.


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Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:30 pm to
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