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Question for Dems re: Russia

Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:10 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:10 pm
If it is shown that the meetings where members of the Trump team were approached regarding intel on Hillary were actually being driven by western intel groups ..... instead of Russians....to try and entrap them into accepting this intel....would that be enough for you to actually admit this is some bad stuff and these people need to be prosecuted?

Trying to frame a presidential candidate is pretty serious business and it is starting to look like it could go down that road.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:16 pm to
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Trying to frame a presidential candidate is pretty serious business and it is starting to look like it could go down that road.




Would love some substantial evidence for this beyond Q theories. As someone who leans left, idgaf who you are. You break the law, you face the penalty.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:21 pm to
This isn’t Q theories - but rather being pieced together by a few journalists and Bongino...who BTW was a federal agent so he’s not some total clown. The “Russian” members of the meeting(s) all have ties back to US and British intel. The clues are within the FISA document and other stories written on this matter.

It is not a huge leap to imagine them trying to set Trump up. Of all people, Schumer warned about how you don’t mess with the intel agencies because they’ll get you.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:25 pm to
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The “Russian” members of the meeting(s) all have ties back to US and British intel.


They were definitely Russian ha, quotes are disingenuous here.
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4741 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:27 pm to
No coincidences
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 8:29 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

If it is shown that the meetings where members of the Trump team were approached regarding intel on Hillary were actually being driven by western intel groups ..... instead of Russians....


It won't be, because it wasn't.

Though it still raises the question of why Trump illegally accepted help from Russians, regardless of who 'drove' it ultimately.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:34 pm to
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illegally accepted help from Russians
What help did Trump illegally accept?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:35 pm to
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Though it still raises the question of why Trump illegally accepted help from Russians


Your post raises a bigger question.

What exactly was illegal?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:36 pm to
Isn’t the dossier actual proof of Clinton collusion with Russia?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48931 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:37 pm to
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Would love some substantial evidence for this beyond Q theories. As someone who leans left, idgaf who you are. You break the law, you face the penalty.


Lol wut? There’s tons of evidence
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5840 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:38 pm to
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Though it still raises the question of why Trump illegally accepted help from Russians, regardless of who 'drove' it ultimately


Link?! Nothing came of the meeting, right? How is that accepting help?

However, the FACTS are that the DNC and the HRC Campaign PAID, with the knowledge of BHO's DOJ, for a FALSE Dossier about DJT from a British Intelligence Officer with contacts to Russians Oligarchs, to get an ILLEGAL FISA warrant approved.

Who ACTUALLY violated the law here?

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:38 pm to
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What help did Trump illegally accept?


Expected dirt on Hillary Clinton. We're not yet sure if he knew to date that it was illegally obtained, but all signs point that way.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

Expected dirt on Hillary Clinton




In your brain, how does the legality of this compare with the dossier that was paid for by the Clinton campaign?
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 8:41 pm
Posted by humanlement
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2014
536 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:41 pm to
Really MF’er what about Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton,
James fuking Comey. No MF’er you just. Want to get Trump just like all your another cock cobbling fukimg liberal puk friends
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:42 pm to
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Expected dirt on Hillary Clinton.
There was no dirt. The "dirt" was a ruse to get a meeting to lobby for adoption of Russian orphans.

Even if there had been negative information about Clinton, what makes that illegal?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:44 pm to
Article from The Federalist noting connections between the Russians at the meeting and US intel, FBI and Clintons. Weird associations for Russian spies.

LINK
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:44 pm to
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There was no dirt. The "dirt" was a ruse to get a meeting to lobby for adoption of Russian orphans.


It wasn't about adoptions at all. Adoptions = magnitsky sanctions and everyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:44 pm to
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how does the legality of this compare with the dossier that was paid for by the Clinton campaign?


A Republican campaign hired a law firm to dig up any background information they could find on Trump - Clinton's campaign then took over the contract after the Republican decided not to move forward.

Trump knowingly conspired with a foreign government for the express purpose of winning a federal election, in the form of accepting something of value from them.

Pretty clear why one isn't being investigated, and the other is. Unless you're a wacky Trumpkin, obviously.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:45 pm to
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They were definitely Russian ha, quotes are disingenuous here


Fair enough. The quotes were meant to question who their handlers were.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12947 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Trump knowingly conspired with a foreign government for the express purpose of winning a federal election


How is this any different than getting a dossier from a foreign entity for the express purpose of winning a federal election?
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