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re: Question for Dems re: Russia
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:22 pm to Wolfhound45
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:22 pm to Wolfhound45
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Wolfhound45
You should read further - I showed my work later on.
Keep at it, though!
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:23 pm to LSURussian
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Breaking and entering is illegal. Having a meeting isn't.
In this context, having a meeting is illegal.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:25 pm to clooneyisgod
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It's proof that a private investigator (originally hired by Jeb Bush's campaign
by blood is boiling at this lie. Steele was NOT hired by jeb bush. That lie is still out there but it just ins't true. a republican in the primary hired fushion gps to seek dirt on trump.
Hillary campaign hired fushion gps, which is when they hired steele to seek russian dirt on trump.
You better fix this incorrect statement immediately.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:26 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Actually jake tapper reported it was a different michael cohen in prague at the time.
Cohen said it was wrong - you believe him? I have a bridge to sell you...
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:26 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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She was such a Russian agent working on behalf of Russia that she couldn't produce ONE PIECE of dirt on Hillary that the Russian government supposedly had?
She was there to try to get Jr and co to lift the magnitsky sanctions under the pretense of getting dirt on Hillary if they won the election. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because none of you maga morons will cop to the fact that taking this meeting was illegal.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:27 pm to atlgamecockman
When has someone ever been prosecuted for receiving non-monetary "dirt" from a foreign national?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:28 pm to SquatchDawg
Yea that's it. They entrapped them, offered nothing at the meeting, and then sat on it for months and months. Makes perfect sense.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:29 pm to BamaAtl
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Things of value aren't limited to money.
Everything in the section you cited is referring to financial assistance. EVERYTHING.
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(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
The "other thing of value" refers to gold, silver, gems, property, etc. which can be converted into money.
You're sooooo desperate. Scream, Gump, SCREAM!!
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:31 pm to atlgamecockman
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Would love some substantial evidence for this beyond Q theories. As someone who leans left, idgaf who you are. You break the law, you face the penalty.
What about Clinton and the DNC paying foreign players for the dossier?...Does that pass the smell test for the libs? How come no discussion or investigating that?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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by blood is boiling at this lie. Steele was NOT hired by jeb bush. That lie is still out there but it just ins't true. a republican in the primary hired fushion gps to seek dirt on trump.
Hillary campaign hired fushion gps, which is when they hired steele to seek russian dirt on trump.
What specific investigators did fusion GPS work with during the phase that they were big paid by the Jeb Bush campaign? Do you not care about the answer? Does that matter to you? Or are you only placing significance on the the fact that Steele specifically was hired after the Bush primary campaign was no longer the funding source? Are you ignoring the fact that fusion GPS was already investigating Trump before the Clinton campaign was involved? What exactly do you think the Bush campaign hired fusion GPS to do?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:33 pm to LSURussian
You dropped this second part
and now it's your turn to cite the statute or precedent that says a "thing of value" has to only be monetary or mineral. back up your shite bud.
Edit: doesn't the fact that it's a regular practice to PAY for opposition research necessarily assign a 'value' to it? No one's giving that stuff away for free...
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(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
and now it's your turn to cite the statute or precedent that says a "thing of value" has to only be monetary or mineral. back up your shite bud.
Edit: doesn't the fact that it's a regular practice to PAY for opposition research necessarily assign a 'value' to it? No one's giving that stuff away for free...
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:34 pm to Tigahs24Seven
The single biggest point y'all need to remember is this.
Mueller has been investigating since april of 2017
since then, he has indicted like 30 russians, campaign aides for non-collusion crimes, americans for assisting in the bank fraud, a dutch lawyer
Yet he has not indicted kusher or jr
Why are they still free men?
Mueller has been investigating since april of 2017
since then, he has indicted like 30 russians, campaign aides for non-collusion crimes, americans for assisting in the bank fraud, a dutch lawyer
Yet he has not indicted kusher or jr
Why are they still free men?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:36 pm to atlgamecockman
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will cop to the fact that taking this meeting was illegal
Because it wasn't.
Getting dirt on your opponents from foreigners isn't illegal. It's protected under the 1st amendment as free speech.
The statute you morons keep citing clearly refers to money or things of monetary value.
If getting info on your political opponents was the same thing as accepting monetary donations then half of DC would be in prison, including that fat whore Hillary.
You morons know this but you're desperately holding out hope that this is "the big one".
Worst part is, you're too ignorant to see how horrible a precedent that would set.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:37 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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What about Clinton and the DNC paying foreign players for the dossier?.
What does "foreign players" mean here? I don't think anyone is suggesting that it's illegal to hire a private investigator who may interview people with sources in other countries. That's not the same as allegedly colluding with a hostile foreign government concerning stolen electronic information to swing an election in exchange for lifting sanctions (obviously only a theory at this point).
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:37 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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What about Clinton and the DNC paying foreign players for the dossier?
Like I said later in the topic, Fusion GPS is a domestic firm and subcontracted the intelligence gathering to a foreign national, and did not disclose its source to the Clinton campaign/DNC so far as I can tell.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Yet he has not indicted kusher or jr
Why are they still free men?
Their dumbass response usually goes something like this: "how am I supposed to know? Mueller's the one investigating".
They seem to have all the answers until you start asking questions then it's top secret info that only Muh Mueller knows
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:40 pm to LSURussian
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Having a meeting isn't.
That's an juvenile oversimplification that deliberately ignores context. That's like saying that holding a gun isn't illegal when of course holding a gun to someone's head and asking for money in exchange for his life would be illegal.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:40 pm to BamaAtl
quote:That meeting has been known about for over a year.
In this context, having a meeting is illegal.
If the meeting itself was a crime why hasn't anyone been charged for it?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:40 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Yeah you'd think we who are on the Soros payroll would have all the plans already
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:41 pm to atlgamecockman
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Fusion GPS is a domestic firm and subcontracted the intelligence gathering to a foreign national
Then why aren't you calling for the members of fusion to be arrested for collusion?
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