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re: Question for Dems re: Russia

Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:01 pm to
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Natalia was working directly for the Russian government 


Natalie isn't an agent of the Russian government. You know this.

You'd might have a point if she's an actual agent of a foreign government doing work for a foreign government but she wasn't.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:03 pm to
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Cite the legal statute such a meeting violates.


52 U.S. Code § 30121 (a)(1)(A)
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:03 pm to
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The fact that Jr. took that meeting with Kushner and everyone else because they thought they were getting dirt on Hillary and were going to use it is evidence enough
Evidence enough of WHAT? Before you embarrass yourself further, try to cite the law you think was broken.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Natalie isn't an agent of the Russian government


Per our intelligence services and her own admonitions to Trump, she is (was?).

Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:05 pm to
see the post above yours for the relevant statute.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52922 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:05 pm to
If you keep shitposting you’ll get banned like WillieNelson
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

52 U.S. Code § 30121 (a)(1)(A)
You should read that.
Then when you understand it, you should get very quiet and slip away.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Evidence enough of WHAT?


Conspiracy to defraud the US. Haven't you been paying attention AT ALL?!

Please stop showing your arse here, champ.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Article from The Federalist noting connections between the Russians at the meeting and US intel, FBI and Clintons. Weird associations for Russian spies.



Smells like a setup
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52922 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:07 pm to
It was a setup from the word go
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:07 pm to
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why would his intel baws help manufacture the Steele dossier to assist the DNC and Hilldawg?


They didn't? Steele gathered intelligence himself from sources cultivated over a decades long career in Russian intelligence for MI6.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:07 pm to
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Article from The Federalist


Does Russia still fund the Federalist?

And yet, you believe things they post?

Jesus, you're gullible...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133654 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:08 pm to
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Are they false when Trump openly admits that this is what happened?
I assume you're referring to the meeting with Trump's son. It's difficult for me to know what you're referring to because you keep changing your accusations and you're never specific enough to know what you're referring to.

If my assumption is correct, what election help did the Russian government give Trump's son at the meeting? You wrote earlier that Trump illegally accepted election assistance from the Russian government. What was THE assistance that Trump accepted?

This is your last chance to answer that question or I'll know you can't answer it.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15476 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:09 pm to
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Per our intelligence services and her own admonitions to Trump, she is (was?). 


She formally worked for a government entity in Moscow. That's not the same as an "agent of a foreign government".
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

If my assumption is correct, what election help did the Russian government give Trump's son at the meeting? You wrote earlier that Trump illegally accepted election assistance from the Russian government. What was THE assistance that Trump accepted?




There doesn't have to be for taking the meeting is against the law in itself. You maga boys keep getting wrapped up in the "they didn't actually get anything!" thought. It does not matter.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:11 pm to
quote:


She formally worked for a government entity in Moscow. That's not the same as an "agent of a foreign government".


Do you listen to yourself?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53851 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

quote: why would his intel baws help manufacture the Steele dossier to assist the DNC and Hilldawg? They didn't? Steele gathered intelligence himself from sources cultivated over a decades long career in Russian intelligence for MI6.


Wrong dummy, I've listened to several reports that stated Steele met with Russian intelligence weeks prior to dossier being drafted in order to get the unsubstantiated BS.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73216 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:11 pm to
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There doesn't have to be for taking the meeting is against the law in itself. You maga boys keep getting wrapped up in the "they didn't actually get anything!" thought. It does not matter.
Meeting with a foreign nation is not against US law.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

I assume you're referring to the meeting with Trump's son.


Has he admitted to other instances in which he broke the law? I mean, other than the felony FEC violations around Stormy, of course.

quote:

It's difficult for me to know what you're referring to because you keep changing your accusations and you're never specific enough to know what you're referring to.



I've been pretty clear- they're guilty of knowingly conspiring with a foreign government to receive aid to win a federal election. This is a crime under US law - the statute has even been cited. Can't get much more specific than that, little buddy.

quote:

what election help did the Russian government give Trump's son at the meeting?


We don't know yet. However, conspiracy doesn't require them to have actually received the help, merely that they sought it.

quote:

What was THE assistance that Trump accepted?


A meeting promising dirt on Clinton from the Russian government to help win a federal election.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133654 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:11 pm to
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52 U.S. Code § 30121 (a)(1)(A)
Nope. Doesn't apply. No monetary or other contributions of value were promised, offered or accepted.

Try again.
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