re: Putin Orders Third Troop Expansion Of War, Making Army 2nd Largest After China's

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They’re irrelevant, and they’ve been that way for centuries. The Russians became the dominant Slavic power and they receded into history.

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with the state Russias military is in, Poland would beat them in stand up fight. Poland actually takes their security seriously

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Poland would last two, three weeks

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That's what you said about Ukraine. Hahaha.

Ukraine had a large army and is being funded billions of dollars and armed to the teeth by the West. It’s not a knock on Russia’s military that they’re struggling ( but still winning) against Ukraine.

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Poland would last two, three weeks

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The Poland that will have the highest military spending/GDP ratio in NATO? The Poland that has an active duty strength behind only the U.S. and Turkey in NATO? The Poland that intends to have the largest ground force in European NATO?

What about Russia's conquest has given you such incredible and misplaced faith?

....and they are still poorly trained and inept.

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Ukraine had a large army and is being funded billions of dollars and armed to the teeth by the West. It’s not a knock on Russia’s military that they’re struggling ( but still winning) against Ukraine.

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you know what else they had, several thousand nukes. They gave them up for assurances they wouldn't be invaded or nuked, with accords signed by Russia, US, UK, and France. Russia violated those twice now, and has threatened to nuke Ukraine multiple times.

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Ukraine had a large army and is being funded billions of dollars and armed to the teeth by the West. It’s not a knock on Russia’s military that they’re struggling

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yes it is, and Ukraine's army was miniscule compared to Russia, and poorly armed with outdated Soviet era crap, and they sent Russia first line units running back across the whole country with their tails between their legs, well before the massive military aid started up, with nothing more than some cheap atgms and manpads. Russia had been completely humiliated militarily, and trying to act like they haven't just makes you look like you are dumb or a shill

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When has Russia ever run out of bodies to send into the meat grinder?

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You got that right.

Operation Barbarossa: The Biggest of All Time | Be careful about superlatives when you’re discussing military history, until you’re talking about Operation Barbarossa….

Before the Germans invaded the Soviet Union in 1941, the OKH (the German high command) estimated that at least 100 German divisions would be needed to vanquish the Soviets in a single campaign. The Germans ultimately mobilized over 130 divisions for the invasion, which included 7 whole armies and 4 panzer groups.

Numbered at over 3.5 million men, this massive fighting force included 17 total panzer divisions, 13 heavily armored infantry divisions, 9 security divisions, 4 mountain divisions and a cavalry division. The remainder of the invading German force was composed of infantry divisions.

After Operation Barbarossa commenced and summer progressed, the Germans had made tremendous inroads into the Soviet heartland. The German supreme command believed that Hitler’s goal of encircling and destroying the bulk of the Red Army west of the Dnieper River was achievable.

Indeed, by early Autumn, the number of Soviet divisions captured or destroyed by the OKH far exceeded the estimated number of Soviet troops the military command thought would be needed for the Red Army to capitulate. Yet the Russian Army was not destroyed and as one Soviet division after another was destroyed or encircled, another took it’s place at the front.

Before the Kursk Offensive and as the titanic struggle entered it’s 3rd summer, Hitler bitterly complained to Generalfeldmarschall Walter Model — one of Germany’s best generals — that the training and quality of German troops did not match that of the German Army in 1940 and 1941. Model matter-of-factly replied “Yes Mein Fuhrer; the soldiers of those armies are scattered in graves throughout Russia.” *

Even still, after the destruction of the 6th Germany Army at Stalingrad in early 1943, there still were more German troops in Russia than the invading force of 1941. Yet still Russia continued to pour ever more men and ever more material at the German invaders.


*Source of quote and troop figures: War On The Eastern Front: The German Soldier In Russia 1941-1945 by James Lucas.

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hear this shite, but don't see any evidence of it. Unlike the Gulf wars, where's the 24/7 news coverage. Oddly very little visual evidence to substantiate these Russian losses or any of it for that matter. Just odd.

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lol, you can go watch literally thousands of them being blown up in real time every day if the week if you want to see stuff that will scar your brain, and those are just the ones caught in camera. This is the most documented war ever, and the casualties are massive

Stoltenberg says it was all about NATO.

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