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Public Hearing on I10 Bridge

Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:42 am
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:42 am
If any of you want a say or have an opinion about this project, the public hearing is next week. On Aug. 31 from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. at the Lake Charles Civic Center.

Should a new bridge be built or upgrade existing bridge?


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Citizens will weigh in next week on plans to build a $2.1 billion toll bridge over the Calcasieu River in Lake Charles before lawmakers review for a final go-ahead in September.

Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development Secretary Eric Kalivoda updated lawmakers on a joint transportation committee about progress with the megaproject on Tuesday as the agency moves toward construction starting next year.



Here are the entities who have their hands in this project's cookie jar.


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DOTD selected Calcasieu Bridge Partners, a group of several prominent design and construction firms, to lead the public-private partnership, and has secured $800 million in public funding to replace the 71-year-old bridge.

The public funding includes $150 million from a federal mega grant, $150 million in federal relief funding, $240 million in vehicle sales taxes over six years, $85 million in general obligation bonds, $75 million from federal highway funding, and $100 million from the state general fund, Kalivoda said.

Those funds are in addition to $150 million in DOTD retained costs from the Highway Priority Program, and $265 million in other potential costs tied to possible delays in permitting, increasing interest rates, and any changes to the plans.

Toll rates will range from 25 cents for local vehicles to $18.73 for large trucks without a toll tag, with discounts for vehicles with more than three passengers during peak traffic. Construction is slated to begin in 2024 and last seven years, with a 50-year operations and toll period once complete.

The next steps involve a public hearing on Aug. 31 from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. at the Lake Charles Civic Center to collect feedback, which will be incorporated into a report to the joint transportation committee for final approval in September.

Failure to approve the project would result in a $2.75 million stipend paid to Calcasieu Bridge Partners for developing its plan, Kalivoda said.

DOTD is exploring ways to minimize the impact of tolls on large trucks, including a potential tax credit for tolls beyond $3,000 a year that would require legislative approval. The department has also applied for a $200 million federal grant to buy down toll rates for non-local autos to lessen the potential impact on regional tourism.

Other efforts to maintain access to lakefront recreational areas would require a legislative appropriation, as would extra expenses to add decorative lighting and cable stays and a bike and pedestrian lane that were not required in DOTD’s request for proposals.

DOTD is compiling an estimate for the costs and risks associated with those changes to present to lawmakers, who would also need to change state law for the bike path to proceed.

Several lawmakers expressed concerns with tolling motorists for 50 years to help pay for the bridge and an interest in avoiding tolls and tax credits, including possibly rehabilitating the current bridge.

“It’s just sad to see that our taxpayers are going to have to take a double-whammy, from paying a toll and offset by coming out of the general funds and stuff like that to pay the tolls” through potential tax credits, said Rep. Rodney Schamerhorn, R-Hornbeck.

“I would say … if we do not proceed forward, the bridge is going to be deferred indefinitely,” Kalivoda said. “There is no way to close that gap” in funding.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14057 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:47 am to
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“I would say … if we do not proceed forward, the bridge is going to be deferred indefinitely,” Kalivoda said. “There is no way to close that gap” in funding.


bullshite.

Plant a fricking Ukraine flag on it.

Consider it paid for with extra money in all our pockets.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15553 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:48 am to
quote:

would say … if we do not proceed forward, the bridge is going to be deferred indefinitely,” Kalivoda said. “There is no way to close that gap” in funding.

Good, put the money toward the loop
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4590 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Several lawmakers expressed concerns with tolling motorists for 50 years to help pay for the bridge and an interest in avoiding tolls and tax credits, including possibly rehabilitating the current bridge.


Only someone who has never driven over that bridge would suggest this.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9164 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:54 am to
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I would say … if we do not proceed forward, the bridge is going to be deferred indefinitely,” Kalivoda said. “There is no way to close that gap” in funding.


bullshite. The bridge will get built. We pay taxes, build the bridge. Figure it out mother frickers.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:39 pm to
Sure there are ways and means to get this done.
One mere solution is reduce the inflated (fat) cost estimates by all participating parties.
Posted by Perse
I identify: LGBFJB
Member since Oct 2020
1472 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:29 pm to
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bullshite. The bridge will get built. We pay taxes, build the bridge. Figure it out mother frickers.


I think it would be a good idea to show up at this hearing and let the politicians know enough with environmental studies already and get it built. Or you may find them taking the easy way out and do the retrofit instead.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36031 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:14 pm to
Not from Lake Charles so I don’t know, would the new bridge need to be so high?
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29038 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:23 pm to
What is the source of info in OP?

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37093 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 10:35 pm to
How can anyone think that bridge can be repaired?
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16833 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 2:24 am to
I am not a structural engineer. What the F#$& am I going to say. If it need work then do the work. Why are they having a hearing.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67910 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 3:16 am to

I like the guns. Keep the guns.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 3:32 am to
I didn't think they could make a primary interstate route a toll. Is it because the bypass will still be available without a toll?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67910 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 3:43 am to

Hire Elon's Boring Company to make a tunnel like in Mobile.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162223 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 3:46 am to
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I didn't think they could make a primary interstate route a toll.


That would be a reasonable assumption...but it definitely happens
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10301 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 4:56 am to
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Public Hearing on I10 Bridge


So that was the reason for the miles long backup. Weren't there any meeting places available?
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:42 am to
Here's a rendering of what it will look like....






Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:46 am to
quote:

I am not a structural engineer. What the F#$& am I going to say. If it need work then do the work. Why are they having a hearing.


Need to light a fire under their azzes and get this bridge built.


Found a 2 year old discussion on this.


LINK /
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:54 am to
I've read some bridge inspection reports from this bridge.

While it isn't as bad as many alarmists claim, they could maybe re-use the concrete piles.
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