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re: PSA to ALL White, Liberal women
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its made up, fabricated. We used to have transsexuals, they were real. Transgender is a fairy tale.
This.
Trannies are trying to claim sex and gender are different but go to their forums and what do you see?
"MtF" and "FtM" identifiers. That stands for male to female, or female to male.
TF? I thought they were TransGENDER and only claiming to occupy the "social constructs" we call man and woman? Why are they using biological sex terms?
Theyre trying to muddy the water on these definitions, their ultimate goal is to claim biological identities, if society accepts the man/woman claim theyre closer to that goal becuse those words do have historical meaning and its easier for a "woman" to become a female (in the eyes of society) than it is for a man to become one.
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Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:28 am to Azkiger
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Theyre trying to muddy the water on these definitions, their ultimate goal is to claim biological identities,
Indeed. Great post..
Posted on 11/29/25 at 11:26 am to RFK
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There is a distinction between sex and gender.
Sex/gender have always been synonymous in society. Your wife is a nut if she buys into trans science butchery.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Theyre trying to muddy the water on these definitions,
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Indeed. Great post..
Hey Rodger. Remember when you tried to muddy the water on the definition of “American” by trying to claim that Venezuelans are “American” because Venezuela is on the continent of South America?
Posted on 11/29/25 at 11:30 am to beerJeep
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Hey Rodger. Remember when you tried to muddy the water on the definition of “American”
One of us understands figures of speech and sarcasm.
It aint you.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 11:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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One of us understands figures of speech and sarcasm.
“What I really meant was….”
Like you didn’t double down on it
Posted on 11/29/25 at 1:17 pm to Narax
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Why do we see it? Because Intersectionality has leaked into almost every other form of human communication.
Intersectionality is an academic term coined by someone in an ivory tower. It doesn’t hold any relevant meaning in discussions like this. Us regular folks don’t need a PhD to tell us that all of our identities shape our experiences.
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Yes there are some who really just don't like people.
But you cannot pull a segment of America that is failing from being criticized.
When you do, that criticism will go to anonymous forums.
People with genuine desires to address societal issues do so offline. The angry rants in response to random tweets from strangers in far away lands of other strangers in far away lands misbehaving are not how narratives or outcomes change. It’s just indignant mental masturbation. “Look how much better WE are than THEM!”
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I'm quoting you lol.
Out of context to prove that prison successfully rehabilitated people by allowing them to age?
quote:are you arguing that an independent 501c3 starting a prison ministry program and recruiting volunteers to minister to inmates is proof that the state rehabilitates people in its custody? Can you explain that for me? How do the actions of a third party prove anything about the government?
Wait that they can't? That they don't?
Those first 2 I proved that they can and do.
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Yea Public Schools suck...
It’s the school’s fault if students drop out?
Conservatives used to believe the government isn’t responsible for the outcomes of every citizen. Clearly that has changed.
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Yea should I have mentioned HighET and similar programs at the state and federal level?
It’s the HiSET. Did you know that inmates in Louisiana aren’t eligible for special education help in prison if they are older than 24? I’m not sure what the rules are around special education in prisons in other states but that excludes a significant number of inmates from accessing education while incarcerated in Louisiana.
quote:I never claimed to be one, nor am I sanctimoniously portraying myself as one.
I promise you you are no prison expert.
quote:Why are you doing this? We could have a nice discussion. We could both learn things. We could exchange ideas.
I'm sorry it's challenging your deeply held beliefs, but this is factual data.
quote:wouldn’t you expect them to be? My goodness these people are locked in cages and they’re constantly being supervised by the state, who isn’t keeping them safe.
Those numbers are also significantly lower than on the outside.
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Dozens, I've volunteered a lot.
And these dozens of people have told you prison is fine and is very similar to sleep away champ? That’s the picture you’re painting. Curious what state you live in with such impressive incarcerated facilities.
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I do care about these people, we just have very different views on what will help them.
Yes. You think we need to treat them more inhumanely for longer periods of time and this time, treating people like shite will finally yield a positive result for society.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 1:19 pm to 4cubbies
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It doesn’t hold any relevant meaning in discussions like this
To Progressives, it does.
Its just more Marxism. "Anti Western" sentiment wrapped in fairy tales.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 2:00 pm to Kafka
Solution...3 bullets.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 2:00 pm to 4cubbies
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Intersectionality is an academic term coined by someone in an ivory tower. It doesn’t hold any relevant meaning in discussions like this. Us regular folks don’t need a PhD to tell us that all of our identities shape our experiences.
So wait, you agree with her but you'd like me to not talk about it?
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People with genuine desires to address societal issues do so offline. The angry rants in response to random tweets from strangers in far away lands of other strangers in far away lands misbehaving are not how narratives or outcomes change. It’s just indignant mental masturbation. “Look how much better WE are than THEM!”
No, the whole point of a forum is to discuss things in public.
People here have a genuine interest.
You can reject western civilization, but don't pretend that's normal.
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are you arguing that an independent 501c3 starting a prison ministry program and recruiting volunteers to minister to inmates is proof that the state rehabilitates people in its custody? Can you explain that for me? How do the actions of a third party prove anything about the government?
Because you are being insincere, You pretend that these people are not being reformed in prison, it's like a child who pulls a blanket over their head to ignore the world.
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It’s the HiSET.
Ooh so you knew and played dumb?
Not very nice...
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I never claimed to be one, nor am I sanctimoniously portraying myself as one.
Oh you definitely are claiming such, you've declared in blatant ignorance that prisons dont reform anyone.
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Why are you doing this? We could have a nice discussion. We could both learn things. We could exchange ideas.
I've learned nothing from you in this exchange, you are only bringing stubbornness and your own biases.
If you want a better conversation, stop being stubbornly ignorant.
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wouldn’t you expect them to be? My goodness these people are locked in cages and they’re constantly being supervised by the state, who isn’t keeping them safe.
See, I point out that they are safer than the outside, you say of course, then declare that the state isn't keeping them safe.
It's fundamentally illogical. You are trying to twist facts to match what you want to believe is true, why is that, why do you need to believe that?
What kinds of unsafeness do you think happens in prison that isn't in the outside for them.
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And these dozens of people have told you prison is fine and is very similar to sleep away champ? That’s the picture you’re painting.
No typically if you work with people in rehab or NA they talk about their story, how they got there, why they aren't going back to that life.
It's pretty standard stuff.
Of course no one wants to go to prison, but your statements are delusional
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Curious what state you live in with such impressive incarcerated facilities.
Not the state of denial that you live in.
I'd like to know the stories your people have told you...
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Yes. You think we need to treat them more inhumanely for longer periods of time and this time, treating people like shite will finally yield a positive result for society.
Nope... that's a lame "It’s just indignant mental masturbation."
I argue for keeping them in prison in order to if they are willing be reformed.
Again, you imply that prison is "dehumanization:"
Do you really think living in a cell is the worst that can happen to someone?
Posted on 11/29/25 at 2:00 pm to Kafka
Solution...3 bullets.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 4:47 pm to Athis
Tragic definition of insanity…..
Posted on 11/29/25 at 7:35 pm to Narax
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So wait, you agree with her but you'd like me to not talk about it?
You keep bringing her up and referencing her arguments. All I've said is that I roll my eyes at "intersectionality." You can talk about it all you want. I don't have much to contribute on that topic, though.
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People here have a genuine interest.
Right...
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Because you are being insincere,
Total projection here.
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You pretend that these people are not being reformed in prison,
I have stated that the State does not rehabilitate people in prison. You have used evidence of OTHER GROUPS expending their own resources to rehabilitate prisoners. You're crediting the work of outside organizations to the State while admonishing me for not doing the same.
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Ooh so you knew and played dumb?
Knew that people can earn a HiSET in prison? Yeah. I didn't think that was a secret.
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Oh you definitely are claiming such, you've declared in blatant ignorance that prisons dont reform anyone.
Your evidence of prisons reforming people is unrelated to the prison. Unless you are claiming that allowing someone to earn a HiSET counts as reforming them?
Our recidivism rates are totally abysmal. Instead of wondering how we can improve them, you're mad at me because I'm not joining you in celebration of how impressive our prison system is at rehabilitating the people in its custody. Are you just being contrarian or do you really believe our prison system is successful at reforming people?
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What kinds of unsafeness do you think happens in prison that isn't in the outside for them.
I'm confused. Are you arguing that the state has no obligation to ensure the safety of people it is essentially holding hostage? You are arguing that the state is allowed to detain people and they have no obligation to ensure the people they are detaining are safe?
I'm arguing that the government has an obligation to ensure the safety of people in the care, custody and control of the government. What are you arguing? \
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Again, you imply that prison is "dehumanization:"
I'm not implying anything. I'm stating with absolute certainty that prison is dehumanizing.
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Do you really think living in a cell is the worst that can happen to someone?
I never claimed living in a cage is the worst thing that can happen to someone. If the bar for what we allow the government to get away with is "well, it's not the worst thing that could happen to someone..." then we have extremely different views about the government and its role in society.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:17 pm to 4cubbies
Look who it is complaining about someone searching for content to complain about. You are a hypocrite to the max. What’s wrong this go against your agenda? White liberal.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:18 pm to 4cubbies
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I have stated that the State does not rehabilitate people in prison. You have used evidence of OTHER GROUPS expending their own resources to rehabilitate prisoners. You're crediting the work of outside organizations to the State while admonishing me for not doing the same.
You do remember what you said?
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I think it's impossible to reform anyone by throwing them in a cage and walking away. Or throwing them in a cage and letting them out only to perform some mandatory labor. That's basically what incarceration is like in the US. It's very inhumane.
I'm being very specific that due to the efforts of both private and public groups (the guards have to be involved in these, I do remember going there for Prison Fellowship, you don't just show up and walk in.) that indeed we aren't just "throwing them in a cage and walking away".
Do you think I've shown that and are now setting a higher bar?
Because I don't think Prison is a vacation, but I don't think we abandon them either.
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Knew that people can earn a HiSET in prison? Yeah. I didn't think that was a secret.
But you did say,
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Do you realize that at least half of the inmates in state custody don't have a high school diploma? They aren't eligible for college classes.
Now yes it's no perfect, but many people private and public are not giving up on them.
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Our recidivism rates are totally abysmal.
Yes, most heavily driven by those who continue to offend.
First time offenders should be kept apart from long term continual offenders.
Do you really blame incarceration for people who continue to offend 20+ times?
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do you really believe our prison system is successful at reforming people?
It does, obviously not enough, but to note, we aren't "throwing them in a cage and walking away".
I'm arguing we can make it better, it feels like you are arguing that we need to not imprison anyone and let young women and children run the risks in public.
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Are you arguing that the state has no obligation to ensure the safety of people it is essentially holding hostage?
Sigh...
It's not a hostage, you are murdering the English language right now.
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I'm arguing that the government has an obligation to ensure the safety of people in the care, custody and control of the government. What are you arguing? \
That they are doing that, it could be better, but you can't fix a system you don't believe can be improved.
I'm arguing in the same thread of 19th and 20th century liberalism.
At this point it feels like you are arguing for complete anarchy.
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I'm not implying anything. I'm stating with absolute certainty that prison is dehumanizing.
Why? Be specific.
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" then we have extremely different views about the government and its role in society.
I'm curious about what your view of the role of government in society is.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:20 pm to 4cubbies
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I'm arguing that the government has an obligation to ensure the safety of people in the care, custody and control of the government. What are you arguing? \
It’s sick how you don’t feel this way about the innocent Americans who were victimized by these career criminals.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 8:36 pm to Narax
Email me a link to your LinkedIn. I’ll send you a friend request or whatever they’re called and you can see the kind of work I do. 4cubbies@gmail.com
Posted on 11/29/25 at 10:40 pm to 4cubbies
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Email me a link to your LinkedIn
In all seriousness, no thank you, I appreciate not actually knowing people's names here, I can appreciate them for the actual information they bring, which is very impressive in some cases.
Society needs anonymous message boards. I very much think the free exchange of ideas is critical to a functioning society.
While I may be snarky and a jackass, I take as serious people who somehow think that Ugandan Muslim dictators are a good thing, as people who think I'm a "Jeet"... oh wait same guy.
But to that point he is bringing a perspective it seems people feel that way, thats important.
I dont need to know if hes a CEO or a janitor.
People are amazingly honest when they have anonymity, its priceless, you know you feel the same.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 11:14 pm to Narax
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People are amazingly honest when they have anonymity, its priceless, you know you feel the same.
I disagree that anonymity fosters honesty. I think it encourages thoughtless and impulsive, emotional posts like we so often see here. There’s nothing at stake so people post to get laughs, upvotes, outrage, attention, or retaliation. None of that is honesty.
Anonymity removes consequences, and when you remove consequences you usually get disinhibition. That’s very different from honesty.
Either way, knowing your government name isn’t important to me. I’ve actually met the few politards I’m connected to on LinkedIn anyway. They all still mostly disagree with what I post here and vice versa.
Posted on 11/29/25 at 11:26 pm to RFK
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If the GOP wants her vote (and educated women like her) they have to embrace science.
Oh shut the frick up with this shite.
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