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re: Prosecutors say Scott Walker at center of `criminal scheme'
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:32 pm to teke184
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:32 pm to teke184
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you'll excuse me if I think the entire thing is a horseshite
Must be easy, going through life developing opinions without information or facts. I'm sure Obama is behind this too, right?
Concerning the OP, would anybody be surprised if it is discovered that Rove was crooked?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:33 pm to NHTIGER
Is Wisconsin the only state with a John Doe law?
Never heard of it before. Of course that doesn't mean anything since I'm not what one would call a legal expert.
Never heard of it before. Of course that doesn't mean anything since I'm not what one would call a legal expert.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:33 pm to NHTIGER
And I'll be the first to say that just because a prosecutor claims something like this it does not necessarily mean that they broke the law.
Would need know more details before trying to determine that.
Would need know more details before trying to determine that.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:34 pm to Decatur
Decatur:
Deflector shields up, Captain.
Deflector shields up, Captain.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:34 pm to idlewatcher
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no hard drive, no care
Squeaky clean.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:34 pm to BayouBlitz
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you'll excuse me if I think the entire thing is a horseshite
The fact that it's all supposedly about funding what were nothing but horseshite recall elections to begin with, seems possibly a tad telling here.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:34 pm to BayouBlitz
Good thing organizations like MMFA don't coordinate directly with the WH.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:35 pm to NHTIGER
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No real news forthcoming on this until early August when Appeals Court rules.
Not saying in any way that Walker's innocent (haven't been following this at all) but this whole "John Doe" investigation thing seems like cause for concern. It gives prosecutors the power to investigate, essentially in secret, whether or not a crime has even taken place. I'm sure there's more nuance to it, but it sounds an awful lot like casting a wide net and hoping something comes floating down the stream.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:36 pm to Navytiger74
Someone tell me what a John Doe Prosecutor is, pls
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:37 pm to 90proofprofessional
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Someone tell me what a John Doe Prosecutor is, pls
From the article:
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Q. What is a John Doe investigation?
A. The state's unusual John Doe law — which dates to the 19th century — allows prosecutors to compel people to give testimony under oath and turn over documents. They've been dubbed John Doe probes because their purpose is to determine whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom.
Prosecutors are allowed to conduct their investigation in secret and can order targets and witnesses not to tell anyone about the matter, other than their attorneys.
There's more about it in the article NH posted.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:38 pm to burdman
Thx, didn't see the Q&A link at bottom
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:39 pm to 90proofprofessional
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Someone tell me what a John Doe Prosecutor is, pls
"Q. What is a John Doe investigation?
A. The state's unusual John Doe law — which dates to the 19th century — allows prosecutors to compel people to give testimony under oath and turn over documents. They've been dubbed John Doe probes because their purpose is to determine whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom.
Prosecutors are allowed to conduct their investigation in secret and can order targets and witnesses not to tell anyone about the matter, other than their attorneys.
Critics argue that process creates a risk of prosecutors overreaching because it gives them so much power and the cloak of secrecy keeps them from being held accountable. Others contend the secrecy helps protect the innocent at a time when charging decisions have yet to be made.
The probes are conducted in front of a judge — in this case, Reserve Judge Gregory Peterson, a former appeals judge from Eau Claire. The judge issues and enforces the secrecy orders, presides over testimony and rules on legal questions that arise.
If the judge determines charges are warranted, he or she enters an order allowing prosecutors to issue them. Prosecutors then file charges, and from there the case goes through the usual process — with the changes being heard before a different judge."
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:40 pm to burdman
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their purpose is to determine whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom.
so the dems are fishing because Walker has turned his state around and allowed people the freedom to choose not to join a union.
What nice, thoughtful people.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:42 pm to CptBengal
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so the dems are fishing because Walker has turned his state around and allowed people the freedom to choose not to join a union.
What nice, thoughtful people
Or these Republicans are crooked. What nice, thoughtful people.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:47 pm to Decatur
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Prosecutors say Scott Walker at center of `criminal scheme'
I thought Obama was the head of the democrat party?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:48 pm to constant cough
It sounds like the John Doe stuff is over, which is why it's public knowledge. If not, what am I misunderstanding from the article?
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the initial presiding judge in the case, former Kenosha County Circuit Judge Barbara Kluka, authorized sweeping subpoenas for a number of individuals, including Eric O'Keefe, a director for Wisconsin Club for Growth.
O'Keefe was ordered to turn over scores of documents related to the recall election and other matters dating back to 2009, documents released Thursday show.
But Reserve Judge Gregory Peterson, who replaced Kluka on the case, quash the subpoenas in January and ordered the return of any property seized because he found that there was no probable cause shown that they committed any violations of the campaign finance laws.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:53 pm to teke184
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Considering the way that the left completely lost their shite in their attempts to beat Walker in the general election and again in the recall election, you'll excuse me if I think the entire thing is a horseshite recycling of the playbook used against former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay by the Travis County, Texas, DA
If you remember (or were watching MSNBC to laugh at them) right after Walker won in the re-call election, they cut to either Chris Matthews or Ed Schultz who went on a big tirade as to how Walker was soon going to go down in a criminal investigation.
Hrm...
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