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Pro Mail in Voting talking point: "It works for the Military"

Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27425 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:39 pm
I have seen quite a few facebook posts and articles circulating recently citing the success of mail in voting/absentee voting in the military.

I served 10 years in the Army and never had a clean easy experience with this type of system. Have had ballots returned to my APO while deployed in Iraq. Same while in Germany.

Am I one of the few who have had bad experiences with this or can other vets and current service members here share their experiences/opinions?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:42 pm to
My registration is scrutinized significantly when I vote absentee. I have to not only provide proof that I'm on active duty but also proof that I'm a Texas resident, then I have to hope that Dallas County doesn't screw it up.

As far as this idiotic talking point:

quote:

"It works for the Military"


The Military makes up less than 1% of the U.S. Population.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 7:43 pm
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15724 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:45 pm to
Would love to know the percentage of overall votes that are absentee from military and compare that to any margins of error in the overall polls.

Seems like it would be relevant.

Completely changing the overall voting platform to one that has less representation than any margin of error seems foolish.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 7:46 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:45 pm to
I recall the military ballots normally not making it in time to even be counted.

You do mail in, you can throw election night out. Try election MONTH.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27425 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:46 pm to
Thanks. Yeah the process was similar for me as well. Home of residence was in Missouri.

My circle of Army buddies that I served with have expressed similar opinions about the process. I just found it strange that anyone would use the "success" of the absentee voting inside the military as pro mail in voting talking point.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Would love to know the percentage of overall votes that are absentee from military and compare that to any margins of error in the overall polls.


There are just over 1,000,000 total on Active Duty.

That's less than a third of a percent of the eligible voting population.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:51 pm to
And if Florida 2000 is any indication, there is a lot of frickery about with those ballots.

I seem to recall lots of military ballots being DQed due to a lack of postmark, for instance.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

I seem to recall lots of military ballots being DQed due to a lack of postmark, for instance.


Yeah, that's illegal because the envelopes they come in specifically say NO POSTAGE REQUIRED IF MAILED IN THE UNITED STATES.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:01 pm to
You think that stopped Dems when it looked like they could steal the election?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17479 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:07 pm to
The military has honor.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13350 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:08 pm to
Pro Voter ID talking point: "It works for almost every single nation on Earth."
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1927 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:16 pm to
Not at all, I changed to Democrat in Nevada. I got all help I needed to vote for Romney.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34105 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:21 pm to
Almost convinced they selectively count Military ballots, or not at all. I also have had ballots returned, once had a return stamped unknown address.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22172 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:05 pm to
The three or four times I voted by absentee ballot in the military, I never had any idea if my ballot made it to where it needed to go or if my votes were ever counted. I'd much rather take my arse down to the local voting station and make sure my ballot is penciled in.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24760 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:13 pm to
You vote where your state of legal residence is.

Some folks change theirs to the state they are stationed in and vote like civilians do.

I always voted absentee.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64033 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:14 pm to
I really don't understand why the existing absentee ballot system doesn't already provide for mail-in voting for people who can't get around easily. Hell, I voted absentee twice (two elections lol) just because I was lazy.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64033 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

Florida 2000


This is what needs to be drummed into the idiots' heads. Hanging chads, dimpled chads, post marks, election volunteer staff overwhelmed, recount takes 6 months, it's midterms before the previous election ever gets sorted out... etc.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 9:18 pm
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9405 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

kilo
20-year Air Force veteran here and my experience was the same as yours. Absentee voting from an overseas location was a nightmare.

When I got back to the states I changed my residency to where I was stationed so I could vote in person. I wanted to make sure it counted.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56532 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Pro Mail in Voting talking point: "It works for the Military"



Nobody knows that these votes are counted.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:33 pm to
Bingo the don't make it in time.
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