re: Privilege is a LIE

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i feel confident that black youth are there and they do listen. But they are the ones that don't get caught up in the shite, so you don't notice them.

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I know they exist in theory. But I think it's a problem when revered civil rights heroes like John Lewis, for example, simply decline to recognize publicly that his community has problems of its own making.

When you shout about a handful of incidents of police brutality but whisper about daily home invasions and muggings, that is going to leave a mark.

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An example would be when churches are often the first to use stigmatizing labels of racism to avoid looking at problems within - you've got a proble

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Black churches deserve their own thread, trust me. The problem isn't that they have bad intentions. However, they push too much community and not enough self discipline. It's important to stand together for important issues but learn to be equally involved in improving on a microscopic (ie family) level.

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The problem is the moronic idea of white privilege.

Are my kids more privileged than Obama's?

Privilege certainly helps some people and there may well be more whites in that category, but it isn't even close to uniquely white

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Bad comparison. Do your kids have a higher chance of success than black kids from a family at a similar socioeconomic level. Absolutely.

There is a economic class aspect for sure but to ignore the race component is just sticking your head in the sand.

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I have only seen it used in a demeaning way online. Granted, almost everyone i know buys into the concept. eta: even my conservative step father does. eta: and my trump supporting FIL and MIL.

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What?

When we talk about white privilege as a country, I'd say it is 90% of the time being used in a manner that is essentially asking white people to apologize for something or to stop looking at minorities about an issue.

I very rarely see it discussed in any sort of unifying or constructive manner, online or otherwise.

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There is a economic class aspect for sure but to ignore the race component is just sticking your head in the sand.

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well there are gender, race and economic aspects to privilege.

The economic aspects IMHO are the biggest ones.

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I'm a huge personal responsibility advocate. But we tend to act like black kids are born at 18 years old in their senior year of high school. If you come from a broken home without decent parental support, with a friend group that doesn't value education (and their parents aren't doing a bang up job either) at a school where few people go on to do very much...

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I totally agree. But what has my whiteness done to contribute to their culture? The things that must be done in order to fix it would largely be considered racist today. Yet they are the same things I would do to my own children.

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Black churches deserve their own thread, trust me. The problem isn't that they have bad intentions. However, they push too much community and not enough self discipline. It's important to stand together for important issues but learn to be equally involved in improving on a microscopic (ie family) level.

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You can tell me if you disagree, but I think the close knit nature of the "black community" is a blessing and curse. I understand why it developed most likely, and I imagine that black people, rightfully, celebrate it.

But, like a tight family or closely held organization, heavy debate inside the entity is often set aside to present a unified front on the outside. It's sort of how I will talk shite about Trump all day on here, but when I'm around my liberal colleagues you won't catch me joining in on any Trump bashing.

I don't want to tell black churches they shouldn't go out and put on rallies and whatnot. It seems self-serving to do so from a white guy. But my opinion is that civil rights cases and police shootings are a drop in the bucket compared to the other issues confronting black Americans. Thus, when 90% of your public appearances (and I'll caveat this by saying media pays more attention to this) are about BLM or police brutality, and very little of that strong language is devoted to going to college, or the single parent epidemic, or the devaluing of others' rights and lives, it is missing a huge opportunity to make truly large strides.

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Privilege is a LIE

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Liberals actually want you to feel guilty about any privilege you have, whether money, possessions, and being white.

However, privilege is not a lie. Privilege is something you must give up in order for everybody to be equal or less than equal because you don't think like them.

We are not all equal, will never be, and not a damn thing idiot liberals can do about it.

So if some idiots wants to claim I have some white privilege, then that's their problem. I guess I'll just say guilty as charged, so what the frick are you idiot liberals going to do about it?

Side note: The Inheritance Tax is government stealing pure and simple. Double Taxation.

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Your first sentence was calling the idea of white privilege moronic.

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Well frick. It's not like I wrote a book. Stop being a lazy frick and read on

I strongly agree with you.

Ill add that alot of blacks are self aware of the real issues (parenthood, overreliance on GOVT help, culture that prioritzes gratification over investment). They just pretend that they are not big problem or worse, feel that they should benefit despite not solving the issue.