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re: President Trump promises to end birthright citizenship
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:26 pm to sparkinator
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:26 pm to sparkinator
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Roe v Wade anyone.
Dred Scott called. He wants Slo to stick his precedent up his arse.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:26 pm to Paddyshack
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A few goobers on TD don't represent 78 million MAGA voters.
Agree. I was just expressing surprise at the persistence of such goober positions here.
As I said, all of the MAGA people I know in real life are consistently for the application of the Constitution.
I know. I'm naive.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Right. That and common sense is obviously the hope behind a new go at birthright elimination.
I already said that language isn't the best.
Perhaps founders' rationale for the POTUS birth qualification could reinforce the conceptual stupidity of birth tourism.
E.g., A pregnant woman from Communist China sneaks into the US, drops spawn on US soil, then folds tent and returns to China with her kid. The kid is indoctrinated there, groomed for US politics, given a huge war chest and sent back 30yrs later to the US in a very favorable Congressional district. Eventually he is a POTUS contender advertising himself at the prototypical American dream. Clearly suboptimal.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:31 pm to shinerfan
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Dred Scott called. He wants Slo to stick his precedent up his arse.
Let's go back to the beginning of this digression.
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It's not precedent. It's a footnote.
shinerfan in t'mud
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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Perhaps founders' rationale for the POTUS birth qualification could reinforce the conceptual stupidity of birth tourism.
Well, the 14A was written long after they had all died, FWIW.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:33 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Trump will make it happen....it may take more than one effort, but he will make the topic clear to all. He is right!
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:34 pm to shinerfan
quote:There is an interceding Constitutional Amendment involved.
Dred Scott called. He wants Slo to stick his precedent up his arse.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Right.
Well, the 14A was written long after they had all died, FWIW.
Relevance?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:37 pm to NC_Tigah
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kid is indoctrinated there, groomed for US politics, given a huge war chest and sent back 30yrs later to the US in a very favorable Congressional district. Eventually he is a POTUS contender
I saw that movie!!!!
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is not a lot of difference between MAGA and Progressivism. Both are activist and collective.
This may be your dumbest comment to date.
MAGA opposes literally every major progressive policy you stupid fricking fricker.
Literal dumbass.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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Relevance?
"The Founders" are irrelevant at that point.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:44 pm to NC_Tigah
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There is an interceding Constitutional Amendment involved.
He was implying precedent is meaningless because it can be changed.
He ignored the genesis of this digression, which was a poster claiming there wasn't a precedent
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"The Founders" are irrelevant at that point.
So the rationale for construct becomes """irrelevant""" when the rationalizer dies?
In that case, as everyone involved w/ US v Ark is long deceased, the rationale for the 1898 birthright ruling vaporized with them?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:54 pm to NC_Tigah
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So the rationale for construct becomes """irrelevant""" when the rationalizer dies?
When a completely new paradigm takes over.
Like if we repealed the first amendment. It would matter not what the authors of the first amendment thought about it, moving forward.
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as everyone involved w/ US v Ark is long deceased, the rationale for the 1898 birthright ruling vaporized with them?
Only if a new controlling Constitutional amendment was created to change the paradigm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:57 pm to texag7
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MAGA opposes literally every major progressive policy
Tariffs, MAHA....
Progressive to the core.
Keep supporting those woke corporations with tariffs.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:02 pm to texag7
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MAGA opposes literally every major progressive policy
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“We must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms and that if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process,” Trump said in televised remarks from the White House on Monday morning. “That is why I have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders.”
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is a sizeable population
I'll ask again. Can you define 'sizable populaion' for us
Also
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should illegal immigrants be able to abuse our laws without us changing them?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Tariffs
Trump has outlined how he plans to use tariffs as a tool to stop us from being abused and taken advantage of by other countries. At least be honest.
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MAHA
How is making America healthy a progressive ideology? Our food and pharma industries have caused immense harm to our population over the past 50 or so years.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Birthright is not a new paradigm. Nor is the rationale for it. The rights conveyed may be, but earlier elements and logic could still be foundational.
When a completely new paradigm takes over.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 3:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:There is a sizeable population of illegals who honestly believe that if you're not legally present in the US you have no constitutional protections. That's why Chamber of Commerce "Republicans" love illegal labor and undercut MAGA to maintain it.
There is a sizeable population on here who honestly believe that if you're not legally present in the US you have no constitutional protections.
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