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re: POTUS Unilaterally Declares U.S. is in “Armed Conflict” With Cartels - Constitutional?

Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:26 am to
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1970 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:26 am to
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This seems an incredible unilateral assertion - any declaration of armed conflict should have, in the least, explicit Congressional backing.


Is your position that when a foreign power (whether government or organization) is killing Americans that a President must wait for Congressional approval to act before acting?
You and I probably agree that the President does not or should not have the power to do whatever he wants - but using the military to target foreign powers acting in a way that puts Americans in danger is constitutional.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23741 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:26 am to
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I am glad Trump is doing something about it.

Me too. But we need to give Obama credit for doing something about it too. He armed the cartels with Operation Fast and Furious.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35959 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:40 am to
You are endorsing optics over real results. You want to tackle fentanyl, you don't go to San Juan de Unare on the Atlantic Ocean of Venezuela when the crap is coming in at Manzanillo or Cardenas on the Pacfic Coast of Mexico much closer to home.

Oh!!!! We sunk some speedboats that probably were carrying some cocaine....we think......and fentanyl......we think off the coast of Venezuela. Meanwhile, cocaine and fentanyl as well as heroin floods in through Mexico and across the border.

Chinese triads are shipping the precursor materials to Mexico.....Mexican cartels hire Jose and Maria to combine the materials together in their house or garage. Cartels then pay Jim and Susie visiting in Mexico to take a kilo or two to the US. Much more efficient.....and much more of a risk to our population than supposition on a few small timers operating off the coast of South America which is the overall wrong direction....and no verification that it was fentanyl.

So excuse me if I look at this action and scratch my head thinking WTF. I could not care less about the legalities. When I see people cheering because we sunk a few Itty bitty operators and we aren't slamming Colombian cartels and their associates in Mexico and Central America like Ortega and Bukele. I'm not impressed and it makes me think something else is up.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31757 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 9:56 am to
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If Congress feels like he's done something Unconstitutional, they will impeach and remove him from office.


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Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4558 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 11:17 am to
Kiwi head. Out of curiosity, what makes you think you have the entire “distribution and logistics” of the cartels down pact?

I travel back and forth from Cali, Bogota and Panama. My fiance is from Caracas, had her entire life flipped upside down by Chavez-Maduro regime.

I’ve got a plethora of circles of friends down here that I naturally learn from.

China & Iran are running Venezuala.

China & Iran orchestrated & control the company with the infamous Dominion voting machines that wound up in our country, but was originally created to takeover VEN in 1999 with Chavez.

By 2017, people are standing in line to get rations for the day.

Average monthly pay for Venezuelan’s right now is ($1 per month, my girl just told me that is what her Godmother told her last night on their FaceTime. Everyone has to have side hustles like families have to stick together to make it.

I can go on and on about how fricked up it is for the people down there, my woman cries for her people but she doesn’t let it bring her down, many great people got taken over & Maduro and his entire circle need extermination.

As for the “logistics” that you have all mapped out, but you are wrong.

Yes of course, Colombia is the natural supplier of the coco industry.

Maduro & Petro (the closet fig/weekend cross dresser Prez of Colombia & former Guerilla) are behind the scenes good buddies. Petro is not all that popular & liked in COL. He & the Brazilian communist were both implanted in 2020.

COL PREZ. Petro helps facilitate the cross over from Venezuala for human trafficking and drug supplies.

The main piece you are missing is that China is openly shipping the chemicals to make the fentanyl and other ingredients to cut it all up. Venezuala is the Deep States free/open maritime port & airports in Venezuala where they can openly import/export anything they want & Kiwi, if you think that they are not utilizing that to bring very bad people into the continent to then move up thru Mexico, along with potential sophisticated weaponry & lethal drugs, your not very bright.

One thing that’s never talked about is that all the middle eastern and African Muslims that are coming into our southern border are being shipped to Venezuela on ships and/or flights, then coming up thru the Darian Gap. Remember the “Raghedd” that bragged to a reporter saying “you Americans are so stupid, you don’t even know who I am, but you will soon”. That was an interview at the border last year.

And Petro/COL Prez, helps facilitate that route that is also bringing in the ingredients from China for the drugs.

This is a well oiled machine Trump has to dismantle.

And when Trump originally put them all on notice, in CALI there were some Narco/Guerilla style bombings that took place & the locals say it’s the NARCO’s reminding Petro where he comes from and he better walk the line and not cooperate with Trump. So he’s in a really bad spot & that’s why you seen that idiot in Times Square last week, which is embarrassing to all my Colombian peeps.

I’m in Colombia now, the people down here are not onboard with the NARCO’s. Maduro. Petro etc… it’s just a well oiled machine and has free reign for many decades because our Deep State in DC has their hands in this and is their dark ops slush fund.

Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7686 posts
Posted on 10/3/25 at 12:02 pm to
I cannot discern any argument for the constitutionality of this approach, i.e., firing first and without warning against alleged smugglers, without at the very least, some form of Congressional approval.
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