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re: Popular vote stats prove fraud in 2020

Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:13 am to
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:13 am to
In Georgia raw vote count:

2020 - 4,935,857

2024 - 5,197,153
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71301 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:14 am to
quote:

You're telling me that 15 million (the equivalent of 7 or so cities the size of Houston, TX or an entire state larger in population that our 5th largest state , which by the way, gets 19 electoral votes) people didn't vote?

Dems weren't able to do massive mail-in voting this time, so yeah I expected the turnout to be way less this year
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:22 am to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Lost in the mix is the fact that the historically-outrageous number of votes Biden is alleged to have received in 2020 were JUST TO BEAT TRUMP

AZ - 10,457
GA - 11,779
WI - 20,682
NV - 33,596
PA - 80,855
MI - 154,188


these states all look very similar (in total votes) in 2020 and 2024.

if Biden cheated with so many fake ballots in Georgia last election, how did Kamala/Trump get more votes in GA this election?

the theory that they didn't cheat cuz more people were watching kinda goes out the window when they got more votes in the state being watched the closest this time around.
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 10:31 am
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7353 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:30 am to
The amount of likely fraud and ballot harvesting that went on in 2020 under the guise of COVID is stunning. It was likely coordinated with efforts unlike anything ever seen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:33 am to
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Well that would need to be asked both ways

Trump also had a 20% increase from 2016-2020


Well you see that was real and natural
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:34 am to
quote:

the theory that they didn't cheat cuz more people were watching kinda goes out the window when they got more votes in the state being watched the closest this time around.


Correct
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8340 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Well you see that was real and natural


All the states quit altogether as needed and came up in unison. They did not do that this time. The shite they tried was responde3d to this time.

but

All of the tight senate races this time are "taking longer"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466894 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

but

All of the tight senate races this time are "taking longer"


The Senate races where they didn't cheat for Kamala, you mean? They filled out fake ballots and voted for Trump and the DEM Senator? Or just filled out fake ballots for the Senator and not any Presidential candidate?
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22782 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Well that would need to be asked both ways Trump also had a 20% increase from 2016-2020


Yes that’s the point.

But let’s be more precise with these numbers….trumps increase was closer to 18% while the Dems were 24%. Trump has basically already substantiated his 2020 results before any expectation adjustments.

Kamala ran because she was expected to get more votes than Biden in 2024. So how much were we expecting Biden to get in 2024?

And further, go look at the 2016 electoral map. It looks like it’s shaping up to be pretty much identical to 2024.

I’m not trying to argue that 2024 proved fraud in 2020…but it does provide another data point highlighting that the 2020 election had many outliers compared to other elections.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Kamala ran because she was expected to get more votes than Biden in 2024.

2024 Biden after his mental issues were exposed to the world and after 4 years of various malaise.

Not 2020 Biden, oppositional candidate to Trump after 4 years of Trump in office

quote:

It looks like it’s shaping up to be pretty much identical to 2024.

There is still a relatively large malleable population, and a metric frick ton of them are in similar geographical areas:

The "blue wall" (Wisconsin to PA via MI)
The "Left Cali because it was too liberal" NV/AZ
The "Former confederacy who are developing with metro areas" (VA, NC, and GA)
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3971 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 1:22 pm to
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15 million?


Last i figured about 6 million in California
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52338 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:10 pm to
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You do realize that one party is adamant about not requiring voters to present an ID when voting? Any thoughts as to why?

His point is that the argument that 2020 is a tall tree sticking above the democrat forrest is a bogus argument. Kamala got about 10 million more votes than Obama ever did. The 2020 number is still higher, but the graph that is bandied about is agitprop.

What you imply about the Democrats wanting to make cheating easier by not requiring IDs is certainly true. It also has nothing to do with the discussion you jumped into.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52338 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

You're telling me that 15 million (the equivalent of 7 or so cities the size of Houston, TX or an entire state larger in population that our 5th largest state , which by the way, gets 19 electoral votes) people didn't vote?

15 million is fake news. The vote count is not complete. That 15 million is going to end up being one or two million. Do I believe that one or two million just stayed home? Yeah, at least most of them. My opinion is that there were about half a million to one million fraudulent votes in 2020…right in the key swing states.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6846 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:09 am to
Coming back to bump this thread.

quote:

2024
Trump so far has received 72,623,882
Harris so far has received 67,927,989
for a total of 140,551,871



Currently:
Trump: 74,851,183
Harris: 71,287,276
= 146,138,459

Still close to 10m votes missing from 2020

Did the entire state of New Jersey or Virginia not vote?

or

Maybe maybe both Louisiana and Kentucky didn't vote?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466894 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:17 am to
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Still close to 10m votes missing from 2020


Based on my napkin math (based on AP reporting 72% in), she's got about 2.82M in California that haven't been counted.

Napkin math is assuming the same breakdown over the outstanding 28%.

With the same napkin math, she looks to have the following outstanding:

200k in WA
172k in Oregon
270k in Maryland
135k in New York
128k in Arizona

etc.

Just those would be a bit over 3.7M

She's going to probably end up being about 6M short. This gap will come from blue states (CA, Ill, NY, NJ, CO, MN, and DC alone would be almost 4M of this gap).

This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 11:19 am
Posted by Maxx99
Great state of TX
Member since Oct 2013
687 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:35 am to
CA looks to have about 4 million outstanding and a few other states lagging.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41833 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 11:36 am to
Wait until more votes are counted. I’m estimating the final number will be about 152.

So far 148,786,358 votes have been counted. California had about 20% left to count. Other states are also still counting.

Trump might not make 50% He is currently at 50.3%. It’s going to be really close.

In 2020 158,429,631 votes were counted for president.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 11:50 am
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