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Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:42 pm to
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brother, are you turning a new leaf with regard to religion



Nah that's been my stance for a long time
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:00 pm to
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How can you share Abraham’s covenant and not be a part of a religion?

Because in the 60s it was done as a matter of hygiene. There was no religious significance to it at all, strictly clinical.
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if you acknowledge Abrham’s covenant



I just prefer to say that rather than "circumcision". Other people/cultures may not understand that it was merely clinical, and recognize it as a religious mark. Did you ever see "Europa, Europa"?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:03 pm to
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So you are really okay with people spending eternity in hell?


The frick?

Being gay doesn't mean you go to hell. There are plenty of gay Christians, believe it or not. My sister is one of them and she knows her Bible forward and backward.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:13 pm to
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never owned a TV because it was "worldly"

your grandfather was spot on
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:15 pm to
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I actually had a conversation with someone last night about it. I can't say one way or the other. I'm not God."


Welcome to New Age Christianity, where nothing is a sin (including homosexuality) and everybody loves everyone.Lauren may I suggest a Bible reading that might help clear up your confusion? Try reading Romans 1:18-32. (let me warn you St.Paul is pretty direct and doesn't mince his words). As a practicing Catholic we are taught to hate the sin but love the sinner. As it applies to folks living a homosexual lifestyle I chose to avoid both.

Okay you heathens....howl!

Have a great day!

This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:28 pm to
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as soon as christian's give up pork, allow men to have as many wife's as they want and bring back slavery

You weren't a very good student in school were you?

The admonition of pork only applied to the jews. Christians have never been told not to eat pork. Youre also comparing an era that has refrigeration, air conditioning, Tupperware, plastic package, and antibiotics to one that had strict food handling guides. otherwise you would die. Not so much today

I'm not a fan, but whats your problem with multiple wives? Its a civil ban. Much like the Chinese tell you how many kids you can have. Neither means anything spiritually. It was also during a time when childbirth wasn't an automatic thing like today, so reproduction was encouraged

Slavery? LoL. You missed Sunday school the day they taught about Moses and the Egyptians, right?
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:29 pm to
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paul's letter to the romans, bro. NOT bible god's word. do you worship paul?

Congrats on being the biggest dumbass in this thread.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:59 pm to
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never owned a TV because it was "worldly"

your grandfather was spot on


His grandfather sounds like a nutter.
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:47 pm to
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your grandfather was spot on



yet here you are on the WORLD wide web...


Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:20 pm to
Religion is such a mess when some try to define what it should mean to other people besides themselves
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:31 am to
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To say he has never been a member of any religion but shares Abrtaham's covenant is almost comical.

Good thing as it's intended as a joke.

Abraham's Covenant with God was that he, and his descendants through Isaac, would be circumcised.

Therefore, circumcision = Abraham's Covenant. But since the mid-20th century in America, circumcision was done as a matter of hygiene, and often has no religious significance - as in my case.

But if you've seen the movie, "Europa, Europa", you'd understand that it can be a mark representing religious affiliation to some people - even if none was originally intended.
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I'm guessing he is merely suggesting that he is a member of the same race, or ethnic group, as if that's relevant at all.

Wow, apparently you don't know what the first covenant was between God and Abraham.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:36 am to
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Wait... you do understand you are taking the Bible out of context right? This is what we are explaining to you.

So here are all the responses to my posts ITT:

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For those complaining that someone is ‘changing what is sin’:
Galileo was imprisoned for the SIN of saying earth orbited the sun
If you took any Christian from 1800 to any beach today, all the girls would be sinning.
It isn’t unusual for sin to be changed.
I’m not antagonistic toward Chrianity. I think it is good to discuss things.

I don't think you understand what pride means in this context.
You can be proud of your children. That's not a sin.

No.
"This is my Son, in whom I am well pleased"

You are wrong but you are too prideful to see it or believe that you could be wrong.

Plato, Socrates, and Aristotle all are quite understandable. The Bible has been better preserved than any of these writers. Our understanding of what the Bible says has been remarkably well preserved. You should check into Textual Critcism studies

WildTchoupitoulas
Please show me the version of the Bible that says homosexuality is OK.

If you don't know the meaning of a term, sometimes its best not to comment


Textual Criticism only speaks to the accuracy of modern Bible compared to Original Texts.
What the Bible says is straight forward when read in context.

You sound like a bigot.

I will be glad to talk to the objective observer, but don’t think you are being objective.
It truly is fine if you do not believe it. I have no problem with that.
It is really hard to make an objective argument that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality as sin. It condemns many things as sin.
The Bible can be clear in its meaning, and you can disagree with it.
To be fair to your argument there are plenty of Christians that are clowns. There are plenty of non-Christians that are clowns. There are just lots of clowns liberal and conservative a like. This doesn’t really make an argument for or against anything.

Meh, so what? What's the reputation of Jews among Muslims? What's the reputation of Jews who support Israel among much of the world?

How can you share Abraham’s covenant and not be a part of a religion? I know there are many Jews that are also atheist, but if you acknowledge Abrham’s covenant you would have to be religious by definition?

It is.
However, people that 100% must attack the Bible due to their own desires only want to take a small portion and use it.
Why?
Because it then helps ease their minds. That's called justifying.


No where in any of those responses do I see anyone telling me I'm "taking the Bible out of context" (whatever THAT means, usually it's SCRIPTURE that's taken out of context. ) and providing me the context I'm apparently lacking.

So is that whole "you're just taking it out of context" response just a go to retort when you got nothing else?
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