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Polls = Fake News (GA6)
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:08 am
I don't have actual stats on this, but it seems to me the vast majority of the polls are so far off base that it makes you think they're all trying to create a pre-election bandwagon effect for the Democrat candidate (a very effective psychology). The November POTUS election and yesterday's GA6 are the most glaring. Did you get the same impression about the GA6 polls leading up to the election? How many time does this have to happen before we realize they're full of it and have not-so-hidden agendas??
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:10 am to tigerpawl
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but it seems to me the vast majority of the polls are so far off base that it makes you think they're all trying to create a pre-election bandwagon effect for the Democrat candidat
They are. They skew the polls with more Democrats than republicans in the samples to make it appear the Democrat candidate is doing great to try and keep Republicans home.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:10 am to tigerpawl
Don't forget 2014. That was the first major revelation of fake polls.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:11 am to tigerpawl
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we realize they're full of it and have not-so-hidden agendas??
i realize
Actually I think a lot of people now realize, I just cant shake that "West Point" and "honor code" duped enough people in my beloved state 
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:12 am to tigerpawl
quote:Unless of course the poll shows what you want it to show. Then it's the gospel, amirite?
I don't have actual stats on this, but it seems to me the vast majority of the polls are so far off base that it makes you think they're all trying to create a pre-election bandwagon effect
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:14 am to TX Tiger
quote:no
Unless of course the poll shows what you want it to show. Then it's the gospel, amirite?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:17 am to tigerpawl
Yah this is my take. Then the polls magically correct two days before the election.
We saw it in the Presidential - NBC was posting some ridiculous Dem +14 samples and blasting "CLINTON LEADS BY TWELVE" headlines and they seemed to time them for optimum damage.
Then weekend before election the post a Dem +6 sample for the first time ever to bring Clintons lead to a more rational 4%
We saw it in the Presidential - NBC was posting some ridiculous Dem +14 samples and blasting "CLINTON LEADS BY TWELVE" headlines and they seemed to time them for optimum damage.
Then weekend before election the post a Dem +6 sample for the first time ever to bring Clintons lead to a more rational 4%
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 8:20 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:19 am to TX Tiger
quote:The poster makes a valid point. Look at all these polls showing GoPhers winning bigly only to have them lose on election day...amirite???
Unless of course the poll shows what you want it to show. Then it's the gospel, amirite?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:22 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:Yeah, the intelligent thing has always been to treat fake news as fact.
Unless of course the poll shows what you want it to show. Then it's the gospel, amirite?
The poster makes a valid point. Look at all these polls showing GoPhers winning bigly only to have them lose on election day...amirite???
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:30 am to tigerpawl
Mark this election down as another win for Trafalgar Group.
Trafalgar Group is a little known pollster that was the only survey research entity to correctly predict Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin during the November general election.
They also were one of only 4 pollsters to predict a Handel victory.
Trafalgar Group is a little known pollster that was the only survey research entity to correctly predict Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin during the November general election.
They also were one of only 4 pollsters to predict a Handel victory.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:34 am to Bluefin
Polls are rigged purposely by the democrats proportionally to the amount of voter fraud they intend to commit.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:35 am to Homesick Tiger
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Don't forget 2014. That was the first major revelation of fake polls.
2004. Exit polls released around 2 pm Election Day showed a certain Kerry win. Purely meant to demoralize Bush voters.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:39 am to tigerpawl
They keep using Dem+13 model bc when Obama won in 08 this was accurate. What they fail to realize is that Obama pushed millions of Americans out of the Democrat party forever, I'm one of them. It's hard to find union people, blue collar workers, in the Democratic Party.
If the electorate was Dem +13 you would think they could win something. It's not yet they keep using it
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If the electorate was Dem +13 you would think they could win something. It's not yet they keep using it
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:43 am to BigD13
I'm pretty sure the Obama electorate was Dem +8
Hillary / Trump electorate was Dem +3 with a larger IND share
Hillary / Trump electorate was Dem +3 with a larger IND share
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:44 am to tigerpawl
Folks aren't buying it any longer, to tell you the truth.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:47 am to Flavius Belisarius
quote:I have a liberal friend who ejaculated when he heard the early results.
2004. Exit polls released around 2 pm Election Day showed a certain Kerry win. Purely meant to demoralize Bush voters.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:50 am to tigerpawl
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that it makes you think they're all trying to create a pre-election bandwagon effect for the Democrat candidate
Makes you think? They've been doing this forever. Of course they skew the results that's why you can't pay attention to that bullshite. Put it where it belongs, in the bullshite column.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:54 am to SirWinston
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Yah this is my take. Then the polls magically correct two days before the election.
My take as well. When the 'polls' started showing 'movement for GOP" I knew it was going to be a blowout.
Remember, Trump only won this district by 1% - GOP outperformed Trump by 4% in a race that was totally advertised to be a referendum on Trump.
This is really a huge rejection of DEM politics.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:01 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:And the Dems insist they'll take back the House in '18. They keep trying to sell that pretty car with no engine.
This is really a huge rejection of DEM politics.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:05 am to SirWinston
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I'm pretty sure the Obama electorate was Dem +8
It may have been, the point is that today they still use Dem +8,11,13 or whatever it takes to get the results they want. Yet the electorate is nowhere near that.
I'm loving it, my predict it account lookin good this morning!
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