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Poll concerning Christianity and RvW

Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4448 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:15 pm
I’ve seen a lot of banter about the overturn of Roe v Wade connected to Christians/Christian nationalism.

How many of y’all are Christians and support the overturn of Roe V Wade?

How many of y’all are not Christians and support the overturn of Roe v Wade?

Upvote for Christians
Downvote for non-Christians

Not a religious debate nor is it a debate on Roe v Wade. I am just genuinely curious how this board falls.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62448 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:19 pm to
Has nothing to do with Christianity, as Abortion will still be legal, just left to the States( voters). This ruling was just a legal interpretation, and frankly a correction of bad law, from the past.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5621 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:23 pm to
There is more truth to it than they realize

It's not like we're a two religion state. Their alternative is just lack of God, moral relativism.

They don't have different ideas and different morality. They are amoral. They hate God and his rules.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4448 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:23 pm to
Yea, it’s a crazy turn of events. Can’t help but laugh at the whole “cis white right Christian nationalism ****insert whatever buzzwords***” conspiracy theory these people keep throwing out. My favorite so far has been the white supremacy one while they totally disregard which race has the highest rates of abortion.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 2:25 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:29 pm to
Abortion being objectively immoral only makes sense within a Biblical worldview. Otherwise, you're left with your own opinions on the matter. Who cares about opinions when truth is involved?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:35 pm to
I can certainly see the relevance of religion to the IDEOLOGICAL question of whether abortion rights should (or should not) exist.

But why would religion have any bearing whatsoever upon the LEGAL question of whether Roe represented sound Constitutional law? Either a "right to privacy" exists in the Constitution or it does not (it does not). Either that "right" extends to abortion or it does not (it does not).

If you are using your religion to interpret the Constitution, you are missing the point.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

How many of y’all are not Christians and support the overturn of Roe v Wade?


Pretty vocal atheist and am very anti-abortion.

While it's true you can arrive to that point of view via religion (and I think most do) it's not required at all.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Abortion being objectively immoral only makes sense within a Biblical worldview.
Are you saying that only Judeo-Christian religions consider abortion to be immoral, as compared to the OTHER 70% of the world population? I had not realized that.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:54 pm to
Dad gum. Totally agree with Hank on this one. Well put, sir.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

Are you saying that only Judeo-Christian religions consider abortion to be immoral, as compared to the OTHER 70% of the world population? I had not realized that.
Nope, but saying something and having a rational basis for that something said are two different things.

My point is that anyone can think abortion is "wrong", but without an basis for objective moral reasoning, all you have is an opinion.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66579 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Has nothing to do with Christianity, as Abortion will still be legal, just left to the States( voters).


Where it will be a white Christian thing.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:15 pm to
Christian, though not very religious, and I support the overturning of RvW.
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
560 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Christian, though not very religious


What does this mean?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46150 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Yea, it’s a crazy turn of events. Can’t help but laugh at the whole “cis white right Christian nationalism ****insert whatever buzzwords***” conspiracy theory these people keep throwing out. My favorite so far has been the white supremacy one while they totally disregard which race has the highest rates of abortion


Think about it. Going way back to the infamous progressive Margaret Sanger, who pushed to establish abortion clinics throughout every large city in black/minority communities, it’s the white liberal/progressive who claims to be the voice for the oppressed biack Americans while also assisting and encouraging black Americans to kill their children. It’s inexplicable why black Americans have allowed this intentional attack on their children and communities.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:46 pm to
It means that I don’t go to church, I don’t read the Bible, but I believe in a god as defined by the Christian faith.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:48 pm to
Christian, support sending abortion to the states where it belongs.
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
560 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:29 am to
The Bible, God's written word, says to meditate on scripture night and day "Joshua 1:8". How do you plan on doing that? You can claim to believe in God, but if you aren't actively practicing your faith in obedience to Him then your faith is dead. James 2:14-26 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!I'm not putting you down; I've just been where you are. God bless.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:32 am to
quote:

It means that I don’t go to church, I don’t read the Bible, but I believe in a god as defined by the Christian faith.
The Christian Faith requires belief in the triune God and trust in the Son’s death on the cross as a substitute for sinners, among other things. Belief in a god is not enough.

We are also supposed to obey God, not to be saved, but as an evidence that we are saved. We are commanded to not forsake meeting together (going to church), and are supposed to submit ourselves to the elders of a church, which we can’t do if we aren’t members of one.

The NT was written with the assumption of membership in a church. To not be a part of one is to disobey God and to deprive ourselves of the ordinary means of grace that He provides for our growth in sanctification.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46150 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:48 am to
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The NT was written with the assumption of membership in a church. To not be a part of one is to disobey God and to deprive ourselves of the ordinary means of grace that He provides for our growth in sanctification.


Currently I’m not a member of a church and I don’t attend church regularly….I read the Bible, watch/listen to sermons from my favorite pastors and pray, but your right, there’s nothing like fellowship with other brothers and sisters in Christ. I need to get more involved in sharing the Gospel and finding a church that is anchored in sound Biblical doctrine is what I need right now….to keep my mind focused on what’s above.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:44 am to
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Abortion being objectively immoral only makes sense within a Biblical worldview.


The right to life is considered an unalienable right across the world. The definition of when life begins is interpreted in different ways. Sometimes this is indeed done from a Biblical worldview. Other definitions are pseudoscientific at best.

The reality is that all people, not just Christians, should practice compassion and be empathetic towards those who face difficult decisions. That doesn't mean you always agree, but understand that one's truth may simply be a perception of their reality.

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