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re: POLITICO: WH officials upset with Pulte who talked Trump into suggesting 50-year mortgage

Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Just refinance. Problem solved


Yea as if that is a free service
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:33 pm to
It's as if some people pushing that benefit from it occurring
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:34 pm to
You are so butthurt over the 50 year mortgage for some odd reason. Here’s an idea: don’t get one
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:36 pm to
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It's as if some people pushing that benefit from it occurring


Cough cough SDV cough.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:36 pm to
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You are so butthurt over the 50 year mortgage for some odd reason. Here’s an idea: don’t get one

Crazy thought - maybe he has the ability to think outside of his own situation and realize that systemically it's a bad idea that won't benefit the American people.

If you claim to be America first you should oppose policies that don't benefit American citizens. I know this is really deep stuff but you should think about it.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:37 pm to
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You are so butthurt over the 50 year mortgage for some odd reason. Here’s an idea: don’t get one


Because it's bad policy that will further make homes unaffordable in the long run.

A better fix would be to do nothing for a decade, keep rates high, creating stagnation in home values, and let wage growth catch up. We will never do that because, as the poster above in this thread said, too many people's fake net worth is directly tied to their houses.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:37 pm to
You’re proposing taking away 20-30% of the value of the average Americans net worth and the only upside you can provide is a vague movement back towards a “free market” and a meme.

I’m done engaging with you.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Crazy thought - maybe he has the ability to think outside of his own situation and realize that systemically it's a bad idea that won't benefit the American people.



I own multiple houses and vacant land so you would think I would be cheering for anything that will drive prices up but I know how this all eventually ends up.

We can't keep kicking the can down the road.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:38 pm to
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A better fix would be to do nothing for a decade, keep rates high, creating stagnation in home values, and let wage growth catch up. We will never do that because, as the poster above in this thread said, too many people's fake net worth is directly tied to their houses.

This sounds like a much better strategy than sending out welfare checks and promoting 50 year loans.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:41 pm to
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You’re proposing taking away 20-30% of the value of the average Americans net worth


It's unrealized and only imaginary until they sell. Once they sell, they have to reinvest that to live somewhere. It's not real net worth if it's just tied up in one property, considering they have to live somewhere

Mine is real net worth because I can sell a few properties tomorrow and turn that into cash that I don't have to use to buy a place to live.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:44 pm to
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and the only upside you can provide is a vague movement back towards a “free market” and a meme.

That's not the ONLY upside

People will be able to afford homes again and home prices will be more in line with salaries. It will also help curb the toxic investment culture around homes, which just creates bubbles and bailouts and bubbles.

Yes, some people will face consequences for risky behavior, but that's going to occur eventually. This bubbles built on bubbles mentality is not sustainable. Our GDP literally cannot afford the endpoint of this toxic economy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:45 pm to
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You are so butthurt over the 50 year mortgage for some odd reason. Here’s an idea: don’t get one


Is this a fix to the affordability crisis like trump says?
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:46 pm to
How can this administration simultaneously argue that a lower inflationary environment necessitates lower interest rates and then say in the same breath free money for everybody?

Can we hold the line for a while on lowering inflation , lowering interest rates and increasing wages before we flood everyone with a cheap money high?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:48 pm to
Your entire last paragraph would be economic and political suicide. For the 1000k time, interest rates are not the driving force behind the US’ inflationary pressures; debt and deficits are. The only thing arbitrarily high rates would do is increase our interest payments and destroy what’s left of the US economy
Posted by ItTakesAThief
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:48 pm to
Kinda like when they allowed people to take out loans for 30 years instead of 5 years on boats and peices went through the roof b
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:49 pm to
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Can we hold the line for a while on lowering inflation , lowering interest rates and increasing wages before we flood everyone with a cheap money high?


We have held the line for nearly 2 years now with higher mortgage rates and home values have been pretty flat, and even dropped in many areas. We need about 8 more years of that so wages can catch up and bring affordability back, but Trump just wants his lower rates at all costs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:50 pm to
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How can this administration simultaneously argue that a lower inflationary environment necessitates lower interest rates and then say in the same breath free money for everybody?


It's as if they have no overriding political philosophy or principles...
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:52 pm to
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Your entire last paragraph would be economic and political suicide


There has to be some pain felt somewhere to get out of the mess we put ourselves in, but no one has the stomach to do it, so we will lower rates, and RE prices will once again leapfrog over wage growth.

We truly will be a nation of renters and 50-year mortgages won't change that, but instead amplify it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 3:53 pm to
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. For the 1000k time, interest rates are not the driving force behind the US’ inflationary pressures


Interest rates are related to mortgage interest rates, and that influences RE prices. Yes, printing money does, too, but it's not the only manipulation.
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