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re: poliboard existentialism

Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:09 am to
Posted by BoomerandSooner
Member since Sep 2025
2622 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:09 am to
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As I posted above, we need to stop people from committing so many crimes in the first place, and the way to do that is not punishment. It's restoring the nuclear family. Nothing else comes close to the difference that would make.


You can also make committing crime less desirable by making jail look less like 3 hots and a cot and more like Cool Hand Luke. Shoplifters do so because the punishment for it is weak and leads people to continue stealing and living on EBT over getting a job. Sentence them to do some of the work Democrats want illegals to do.

Hours in the hot sun doing manual labor. Remove government handouts for criminals. Working an eight hour shift slinging burgers at an air-conditioned McDonalds won't seem so bad in comparison.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22026 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:10 am to
Laugh all you want

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My nuclear family is intact. Out of several hundred families at my church, probably 80% of them are intact


So?
What percentage is that on the larger scale of bs we see in this country with so called families teaching children how to play the system?

Keep your little part of the country pure. You’re wrong. And sort of a Pollyanna.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70058 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:15 am to
Yeah, but long sentences keep those who weren’t deterred in a cell away from me where they can’t do any more crimes around me.

I want to live in a society where every public place isn’t filled with vandalism and surrendered to violent people with zero concern for basic hygiene.

I want a moderately trusting society where people won’t instantly steal any item not bolted to the ground, and where restaurants aren’t afraid to have free sauces, refills, and napkins dispensed for customers to grab feely without random a-holes just stealing all of it.

I want to be able to take public transit or walk down the street in my city’s central business district without having to keep my head on a swivel while worrying about my feet stepping in human excrement.

I want to be able to send my kids to a school where my child might actually learn something rather than get beaten up or stabbed by a violent illiterate truant who only disrupts class when they infrequently attend but whom the school repeatedly refuses to discipline or remove.

Bleeding hearts tell me that what I want is impossible and racist. It’s not. It’s the bare f$&king minimum.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 8:16 am
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4399 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:15 am to
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Your dad's leather strap wouldn't do shite to change the behavior of an adult criminal, but that authority applied to a child tends to produce an adult with respect for society, the law, and general morality.
Bull Excrement. Keep giving them more and more strap. At some point, they'll quite committing the crimes or they'll quit breathing. Either way, the problem is solved.

quote:

When there is a dad with a leather strap at home, the adult that is produced is civilized. When there's not, the chances that the adult that is produced will be some flavor of anti-social skyrockets.
See above.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19306 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:25 am to
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Pretty sure anyone who has seen even one rerun of law and order has a better understanding of how plea deals work than you do.





This is probably one of the funniest things I've seen on this board recently.

You want us to believe your guy plead guilty to a felony to get out of a misdemeanor driving offense?
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
19712 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:32 am to
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You want us to believe your guy plead guilty to a felony to get out of a misdemeanor driving offense?


I've watched a LOT of L&O... never saw that on there.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60699 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:57 am to
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You want us to believe your guy plead guilty to a felony to get out of a misdemeanor driving offense?



Do I expect a board full of people who would voluntarily sign affidavits stating that every election a Republican loses was sToLeN to believe anything grounded in reality is a better question.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60699 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:02 am to
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want to live in a society where every public place isn’t filled with vandalism and surrendered to violent people with zero concern for basic hygiene.

I want a moderately trusting society where people won’t instantly steal any item not bolted to the ground, and where restaurants aren’t afraid to have free sauces, refills, and napkins dispensed for customers to grab feely without random a-holes just stealing all of it.

I want to be able to take public transit or walk down the street in my city’s central business district without having to keep my head on a swivel while worrying about my feet stepping in human excrement.

I want to be able to send my kids to a school where my child might actually learn something rather than get beaten up or stabbed by a violent illiterate truant who only disrupts class when they infrequently attend but whom the school repeatedly refuses to discipline or remove.

Bleeding hearts tell me that what I want is impossible and racist. It’s not. It’s the bare f$&king minimum.


If this isn't the most melodramatic nonsense I've seen posted here in a while...

I live in New Orleans. My kids go to public school and read above grade level. Neither has been beat up or stabbed at school or anywhere else.

If everywhere you look you only see shite and problems, it makes me wonder what you're looking for when you look around.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17228 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:07 am to
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You want us to believe your guy plead guilty to a felony to get out of a misdemeanor driving offense?


quote:

Do I expect a board full of people who would voluntarily sign affidavits stating that every election a Republican loses was sToLeN to believe anything grounded in reality is a better question.


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This is exactly why your preachiing goes 100 pages. You ignore... deflect... strawman... all the tricks.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17228 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:11 am to
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The idea that the nuclear family can exist in this day and age is a utopian notion.


Uhhh... what??
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70058 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:15 am to
I taught in public schools in Baton Rouge for a couple semesters. I had one student stabbed and another beaten within an inch of his life.

In New Orleans, I was mugged by a homeless person a block off canal street and shot at twice. My roommate also had his phone stolen off of him. I have personally witnessed stabbings, brawls, car-jackings, etc. All of these happened in the last 5 years, AND I DON’T LIVE THERE!

Yeah, I am sure I am just “looking for problems” while I step over yet another human shiit on canal street between a half dozen passed out homeless people.

GTFOOH with your bleeding heart NIMBY “if you’re seeing problems it’s because you’re the problem cause nothing ever happens on my block” gaslighting bullsh&t!
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 9:17 am
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22026 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:25 am to
Uhhh what?
See above. Tired of trying to educate others. You and wackit can converse.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38145 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:41 am to
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If this isn't the most melodramatic nonsense I've seen posted here in a while...


You finally read your own OP?

Damn, that took a while.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12562 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:43 am to
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You can also make committing crime less desirable by making jail look less like 3 hots and a cot and more like Cool Hand Luke.


Except that it doesn't work and it's been proven to not work about a million times.

Why do y'all act like that isn't true?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
121750 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:47 am to
Cubbies student may have robbed you
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12562 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:49 am to
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Bull Excrement. Keep giving them more and more strap. At some point, they'll quite committing the crimes or they'll quit breathing. Either way, the problem is solved.


Except that it's not.

You macho internet guys want a system in which punishment is harsh, immediate, and public, right?

Well, we had that. In this country (or in the colonial version of this country).

Back then there were no prisons. You got something like tarred and feathered or horse whipped or put in stocks for a misdemeanor and if you were found guilty of a felony you were simply taken outside the courthouse and hanged. Usually the morning after the trial. That's it. No incarceration. They had jails to hold you until trial, which usually took place a week or two after being arrested, and that's it.

The hangings were public, so everyone saw what would happen to you if you stole horses or killed someone or robbed a bank.

And the murder rate was six times what it is now.

Yeah. Six times.

No matter how internet-tough you guys think you are for insisting on this, it's simply not true, and it never has been.

Hell, I wish it were true. It would be pretty simple and easy to fix if it were.

But it isn't, and no amount of y'all mindlessly claiming that it is will make it so.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17228 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:50 am to
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Uhhh what? See above. Tired of trying to educate others. You and wackit can converse.


I don't think anyone is going to answer the question as to why something cannot exist when I see it existing all around me.

Now the excuse of why the nuclear family cannot exist is what I'm needing to be educated on. Especially when I see it existing everywhere.

What IS making it SEEM it is not feasible is the actual encouragement for it NOT to exist. Government handouts making it financially more attractive, societal normalization of it, etc.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 10:01 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88582 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:52 am to
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This is exactly why your preachiing goes 100 pages. You ignore... deflect... strawman... all the tricks.


Cut her a little slack. She’s fighting back with everything her limited wits will allow.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
48937 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:57 am to
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Do I expect a board full of people who would voluntarily sign affidavits stating that every election a Republican loses was sToLeN to believe anything grounded in reality is a better question.


You clearly have nothing but contempt for the people on this board. People that you have repeatrdly lied about. Your attempted character assassination of this board has not gone unnoticed by most here (you've managed to fool a few).

So, why even come here if you hate this board so much that you even try to blame us, MAGA, and Trump when one of your little Boy Scouts breaks the law YET AGAIN?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12562 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:58 am to
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Yeah, but long sentences keep those who weren’t deterred in a cell away from me where they can’t do any more crimes around me.


That's fine, but that's a different claim.

I also believe in the protective theory of incarceration.

But because it's true that people who can't act within society's laws need to be separated from the rest of society to protect society, that doesn't mean it's true that harsh punishments deter crime.

They don't.

quote:

I want to be able to send my kids to a school where my child might actually learn something rather than get beaten up or stabbed by a violent illiterate truant who only disrupts class when they infrequently attend but whom the school repeatedly refuses to discipline or remove.


I'm not a bleeding heart liberal, but I will tell you that this last point is impossible as long as we stay committed to universal compulsory mass education. In public schools, anyway.

We insist on public education that is compulsory and universal not because we really believe all children are going to be educated (it's obvious that it is impossible to educate children when their parents have no interest in them being educated), but because we're addicted to the taxpayer funded daycare and also the use of schools as a tool for indoctrination and redistribution of wealth.

And that is not going to change. Public school is a socialist mechanism and you aren't going to change it to something else.

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