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re: "Please do not call Russia the aggressor in their war with Ukraine."
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:22 am to Jack Carter
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:22 am to Jack Carter
Didn't know NATO troops were in Ukraine and started an invasion
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:22 am to Jack Carter
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NATO was the aggressor. Russua just responded to that aggression
Well all Russia did was actually put NATO on their border (i.e. Finland). Congrats, they played themselves.
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Didn't know NATO troops were in Ukraine and started an invasion
Didn't you know? We somehow got the Ukrainians and their military to revolt against their president in 2014, yet somehow Russia can't do the same despite "Zelensky's approval rating being at 4%". Makes total sense.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:08 am to LARancher1991
No one said he was blameless and wasn’t a dictator that has jailed his opponents.
I said the U.S. CIA led a coordinated effort, hidden behind the guise of removing terrorists In Ukraine, to join with the Azov battalion and overthrew the democratically elected president that was ponying up to Russia economically instead of the European Union. They then used the puppet gov our CIA installed to shell Eastern Ukraine.
I said the U.S. CIA led a coordinated effort, hidden behind the guise of removing terrorists In Ukraine, to join with the Azov battalion and overthrew the democratically elected president that was ponying up to Russia economically instead of the European Union. They then used the puppet gov our CIA installed to shell Eastern Ukraine.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:09 am to CAD703X
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is this the daily shmoo/russia thread he starts then takes his pants off and masturbates at the responses?
Yes. And if he actually bothered to study what has occured in Ukraine since the collapse of the Soviet Union, he would understand that this war has been coming for a long time and that the "fault" and "cause" is most certainly debatable.
But he's just here to run by and fling shite while hoping it sticks. Meaningful discourse isn't the intent.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:11 am to Jack Carter
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NATO was the aggressor. Russua just responded to that aggression
this is truth in it, USA was leading the group
14 countries added to NATO towards Russian borders the last 20 years
that's not what was agreed to in 1992
oh well, right?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:13 am to LARancher1991
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Didn't know NATO troops were in Ukraine and started an invasion
Did Ukraine troops shell eastern Ukraine? Is that what Russia has taken in the war?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:14 am to TheShmoo
Did Trump really say this?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:15 am to TheShmoo
Cry f@g
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 11:16 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:16 am to scottydoesntknow
The lesson to everyone is keep or get nukes or the US may hang you out to dry if not invade you ourselves.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 11:17 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:16 am to djsdawg
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Did Ukraine troops shell eastern Ukraine? Is that what Russia has taken in the war?
You mean did Ukraine shell rebels, led by actual Russian nationals, who shot down an airliner with a Russian provided SAM?
They probably did that, and they probably should have done that.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:21 am to TheShmoo
Typically speaking annexing a sovereign state's territory unilaterally is seen as aggressive, no?
Trump's handling of this is laughable even if the end goal is right. He's acting just like what some TDS lib from the Russiagate era would imagine. Just spieling Russian propaganda. Our disinterest in bankrolling a proxy war with Russia does not mean we need President RT.com.
Trump's handling of this is laughable even if the end goal is right. He's acting just like what some TDS lib from the Russiagate era would imagine. Just spieling Russian propaganda. Our disinterest in bankrolling a proxy war with Russia does not mean we need President RT.com.
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:25 am to Diego Ricardo
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Just spieling Russian propaganda.
Have you ever considered what trump saying isn’t propaganda, but rather what everyone on the pro war left saying is propaganda?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:25 am to Florida_Man1981
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The lesson to everyone is keep or get nukes or the US may hang you out to dry if not invade you ourselves.
The United States of America does not have allies, only interests. Those interests can change based on the domestic political realities. Additionally, you cannot trust the USA's commitment to treaties because of said domestic political realities. Essentially, we're establishing a character in global politics that dictates that you should never deal with us. Our ability to project soft power is giving way to just the hard power implication that we're holding a nuclear gun to humanity's head.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:26 am to djsdawg
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Have you ever considered what trump saying isn’t propaganda, but rather what everyone on the pro war left saying is propaganda?
I considered it and thought it was fully regarded.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:26 am to ApexTiger
Kind of telling though. Former Russian 'allies" could not wait to join an alliance that Russia was not a part of.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:32 am to memphisplaya
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a democratically elected gov and one that wanted to build a relationship with Russia economically instead of the European Union.
That's objectively untrue.
The Rada voted earlier in 2013 at over 90% support of EU integration.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:33 am to TheShmoo
Well I guess it depends on how you look at it. They supplied weapons to rebels in a civil war until they eventually started fighting along side the rebels. How many times has the U.S. supplied rebel forces with weapons and fought along side rebels in wars we had no business being involved in? This was happening on the Russian border to people that the majority of them wanted to become a part of Russia again. The U.S. does this all the time on the other side of the world. With rebels who have no interest in becoming a part of the U.S. and do not border the U.S.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:33 am to TheShmoo
You should go fight simp
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Don't interrupt the narrative
Posted on 2/21/25 at 11:35 am to TheShmoo
Day 2 of your Ukraine fueled meltdown.
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