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re: Plane Crashes in Philadelphia: Medical Jet, 6 people on board

Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:48 pm to
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watched a few of this guys videos. S


He's is an awesome youtube channel to follow if you are interested in aviation.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23267 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:49 pm to
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One of the pilots has a very heavy accent.


Probably because he's the Mexican pilot of a Mexican plane.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:49 pm to
There was no huge explosion in air. The plane was intact when it hit the ground. Fox News guest now saying mechanical issue probably wing stall when they come down that quick after takeoff
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5387 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:50 pm to
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What is the first glow that appears above before the crash?


I think the plane was on fire and/or had explosion before it finally hit.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Probably because he's the Mexican pilot of a Mexican plane.


Why is a Mexican plane transferring a patient from Pennsylvania to Missouri.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 pm to
Possibly a terrorist/suicide mission in retaliation for tariffs.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Why is a Mexican plane transferring a patient from Pennsylvania to Missouri.


Cheaper than an American plane.

Dummy.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6778 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:53 pm to
They found an oxygen tank or part of tank 1/4 mile from site.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19812 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:54 pm to
Lear jet with six aboard. Not a tiny plane. 40 feet wings, fifty feet long.


General characteristics
Crew: 2
Capacity: 10
Length: 55 ft 1 in (16.80 m)
Wingspan: 43 ft 10 in (13.35 m)
Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.48 m)
Wing area: 264.5 sq ft (24.57 m2)
Empty weight: 13,000 lb (5,897 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 21,500 lb (9,752 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Garrett TFE731-3A-2B turbofan aero-engine, 3,700 lbf (16 kN) thrust each
Performance
Maximum speed: 541 mph (871 km/h, 470 kn) at 30,000ft (9145m)
Cruise speed: 462 mph (744 km/h, 402 kn) at 49,000ft (14935m)
Range: 2,492 mi (4,010 km, 2,165 nmi) with four passengers and fuel reserves
Service ceiling: 51,000 ft (16,000 m)
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23267 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Why is a Mexican plane transferring a patient from Pennsylvania to Missouri.


Look at it's flight history. All over Mexico, the US, and even in Haiti just in the last 5 days. It's going to go wherever people pay for transport.

Posted by LurkingTigers
Member since Jun 2011
1544 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Why is a Mexican plane transferring a patient from Pennsylvania to Missouri.

Probably stopping for fuel first. Not sure what the range is on that particular jet.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19812 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:57 pm to
They don’t know yet. Different cameras give differing impressions.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23267 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:58 pm to
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Look at it's flight history. All over Mexico, the US, and even in Haiti just in the last 5 days. It's going to go wherever people pay for transport.



frick. With that being a pediatric patient, that earlier post about it being an Angel Flight might have been accurate.

I know I just replied to myself, but that just occurred to me. frick.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5387 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:58 pm to
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They found an oxygen tank or part of tank 1/4 mile from site.


Yeah I heard that on Fox just now.

When they are doing super slow mo it sure looks like it's on fire before impact.

Now, that could be lights coming through clouds, but to me, it looks on fire.

I could for sure be wrong.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39931 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Why is a Mexican plane transferring a patient from Pennsylvania to Missouri.

They may have been stopping to refuel . I don't think a LJ55 has the legs to get to say Monterey, Guadalajara, or Mexico City from Philly taking winds aloft and the weight of an outfitted Medevac with 6 on board into account.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2990 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:02 pm to
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They found an oxygen tank or part of tank 1/4 mile from site.


Didn’t read this whole thread yet, but my guess is it was an organ recipient flight, and that O2 tank that was found fell over, broke the regulator, and torpedoed out of the plane.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:03 pm to
I see fire either coming from the engine in spurts, or in the plane, but definitely 2 separate flame flares onnthe way down.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23267 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:03 pm to
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They may have been stopping to refuel .


Maybe, but it could have been a transport. They also operate in the US and even have an office in Miami.

Jet Rescue

Two of their planes are XA-ICU and XA-UCI
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5387 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:05 pm to
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I see fire either coming from the engine in spurts, or in the plane, but definitely 2 separate flame flares onnthe way down.


There ya go, that's how I see it.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5387 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:06 pm to
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Didn’t read this whole thread yet, but my guess is it was an organ recipient flight, and that O2 tank that was found fell over, broke the regulator, and torpedoed out of the plane.


That's so crazy to picture. That's like something out of the movies.
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