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re: Persia is the modern day Iran, and Babylon, modern day Iraq
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:53 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:53 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I don’t think the “influence” they (I mean Israel, not Jews) have is unusual at all if you know about the region and their actions.
Israel is synonymous with Jews. How can you separate the two?
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:55 pm to Revelator
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Israel is synonymous with Jews. How can you separate the two?
Oh geez. Is this why we can’t criticize any Israeli actions without being accused of hating Jews?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Oh geez. Is this why we can’t criticize any Israeli actions without being accused of hating Jews?
No. I’m simply saying Israel is a Jewish country
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:23 pm to Revelator
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So why did Jesus tell his disciples the signs of what would happen before his return if he didn’t want us to look into these things?
He told them what would happen(some of which happened in their lifetimes). He didnt tell them to dwell on it or use it to predict the future. Im not at all doubting the other guy's faith or sincerity. I dont think its wise to use prophecy to predict specific things people will do or give timeframes.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:31 pm to Revelator
I just don't believe that their "influence" is because they are a "Jewish State" or because of God. If White, Catholic Europeans had reestablished a Crusader State in the same area and acted in the same manner as Israel has, I have no doubt that state would exert the same amount of "influence".
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:44 pm to KiwiHead
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Did Jesus actually say those things? Revelations does, but Revelations is not Gospel. Gospel reports on the word of Christ....it's the Good News and quotes Christ. Revelations came to John in Patmos while he was locked up...it's mainly about his divinely inspired visions.
Revelation is deemed a "Blessing" more than all books because God the Father Himself wrote it, gave it to Jesus His son, to give to John in Words, Signs and Visions from Angels.
WATCH.........The very first verse says this.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
When we read Revelation, just know this, The Father wrote this, SMILE, its that deep. Now, let me let you guys in on a little secret. All Translations are not great and some words (like gay being happy now means homosexual) change meaning or get lost in the shuffle.
When I looked at my Greek with links to Strong's online I noticed the word SHORTLY in the Greek was TWO WORDS not one. Not to bore you with links TRUST ME on this, one is Strong's 1722 EN the other Greek word is 5034 Tachos.
EN denotes a fixed position in Time, Place or State.
Tachos is where we get the English word Tachometer from (see it coming? ZOOM, Zoom Zoom) so Tachos can mean one of 4 English words.
From the same as G5036; a brief space (of time), that is, (with G1722 prefixed) in haste:— + quickly, + shortly, + speedily.
What do those other Three Words suggest this means? Lets put it all together
At a future POINT IN TIME only the Father Knows (EN) Jesus will return in HASTE......SPEEDILY........QUICKLY......or in a SHORT TIME BURST known here via the Old English word SHORTLY. We see Shortly as something different now.
Now get this, I know people, preterist especially, who cling to this ONE VERSE and say, Jesus is ruling in his reign now, because Revelation 1:1 says he was going to return shortly, OR OTHERS (some here no doubt) who say SEE, SEE, SEE, this was a lie, thus its all a lie.
The truth it we have to put in the GRUNT WORK or else we will never know God in full, as He intended. Those who waste time on worldly things will get their just rewards. Pearl teaching of the day.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:55 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I just don't believe that their "influence" is because they are a "Jewish State" or because of God. If White, Catholic Europeans had reestablished a Crusader State in the same area and acted in the same manner as Israel has, I have no doubt that state would exert the same amount of "influence".
And I guess it’s just coincidence that God said he’d set up his throne there one day
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:56 pm to Revelator
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And I guess it’s just coincidence that God said he’d set up his throne there one day
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:00 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Damn, you're retarded
Revelations 3:10
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:01 pm to Revelator
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Bible prophecy is being played out before us in real time.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:04 pm to Revelator
That throne has already been sat on by David and others, again Jesus said his “kingdom” is not of this World otherwise people would fight over it. Quit applying highly symbolic verses in Revelation and completely forgetting the rest of the Bible
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:05 pm to scottydoesntknow
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The best religious minds misinterpreted all the prophecy leading to Jesus for centuries which leads me to believe that prophecy isnt something to use as a means for us to figure out and use as some kind of guide for behavior but rather just as a means to point to God's sovereignty over time and His creation.
Basing any of our policy on prophecy is foolish and possibly even sinful. Just look at the fruits of our relationship with Israel since 1948...has God blessed it? Id argue that it has brought nothing but bloodshed and strife. Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruits...
The Wise men knew, it was in prophesy, also at that time men only got the blood placed on their sins periodically, so they could not get as close to God as we can now via a continual flow of the holy spirit, thus is why the Prophets of God had to go out into the Desert/Wilderness to get away from other men's influences. This is also why some modern day prophets get this wrong a bit even when they get it right. Trump was always going to be reelected, just not in 2020, they were right technically, but why did they also kinda get it wrong? Modern day men of God have to preach the word to save souls, that JOB-1, so we must needs stay amongst men. So, those same people who heard Trump was going to win a second term, could not hear the negative because even when I saw trepidation, they forced it to be the 2020 election because other men were pushing them, they did not want to hear he was going to have the 2020 election stolen, but that was God's plan all along. BUT the point us the word was there to be heard. God's spirit will always reveal truths.
One old Man saw baby Jesus and knew he was the Messiah then he died. Prophesy says Jesus will be born in Bethlehem, but it also says "My son will come out of Egypt" and Jesus parents fled to Egypt then returned when he was 2 years old. No Prophesy has ever failed. PERIOD. The difference in now and 2000 to 2500 years ago is God has now poured out His spirit. PLUS........get this.........we have it made, their studies had to be by hand, books in Libraries, some 100s of miles away, or they had to trust the Pharisees etc. the the so called "Learned Men" who Jesus warned were devils !! Now-a-days we have all this info at our fingertips, I was debating GROK on Daniel 12 just a month or so ago. We also have the rearview mirror effect, WE KNOW how it all matches up because we are living at the very end and can look back and see how everything went down. Prophesy is east to me, I can explain the whole book of Revelation in one post.
God told Daniel He was going to LOCK UP the INFO until the END remember? So, things Daniel were never told is being revealed now. Why? Because it is germane to our generation, Israel needs to know what is going to go down after the Rapture. The bible says 1/3 of the Jews repent so what 5-6 million, then those will flee into the Petra/Bozrah region. The 2/3 will die. God gave us Prophesy for 2 reasons, to inform us on future events and to GLORIFY Himself, to prove He knows the beginning from the ending.
Israel is a miracle nation, they should not have survived. The USA is a miracle nation, George Washington only beat the Brits because it was Providence.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:06 pm to TTOWN RONMON
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But only after the Pre Trib. Rapture.
Have been told you must be retarded to believe such a thing.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:16 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I'm not sure what you mean by this.
I mean, you are suggesting that Israel’s significance is based on outside factors such as location, its religion, democracy, etc. and I’m saying their significance is based on God’s sovereign will.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:25 pm to Revelator
“For there will be wars and rumors of wars”.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:32 pm to TTOWN RONMON
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No Prophesy has ever failed. PERIOD.
Oh boy.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:36 pm to Jjdoc
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More people need to understand, but they would rather go without God. Hes being mocked in this thread right now.
They/Them, not He
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:40 pm to Revelator
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I mean, you are suggesting that Israel’s significance is based on outside factors such as location, its religion, democracy, etc.
I'm saying that it is a state plopped down in a strategic area of the World (strategic for many reasons) and it has been active in that area politically, militarily, diplomatically, etc.
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I’m saying their significance is based on God’s sovereign will.
I don't know how to react to this. You see it this way only because of your religious beliefs. Russia is also a significant state and has been one for a much longer time than Israel. Is that God's sovereign will too? Is Russia therefore not more "special" in your eyes?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
Religion is ghey. More wars than salvation
Prove me wrong
Prove me wrong
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:43 pm to Revelator
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