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re: Persia is the modern day Iran, and Babylon, modern day Iraq

Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:46 am to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:46 am to
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Did you detect fear in my OP?



Do you fear your lord.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:46 am to
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Do you fear your lord.


Sure why?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:47 am to
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he was just giving a PSA from a religious perspective, nothing more.


What was that PSA about?
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:50 am to
Yikes. I’d hate to be a Christian that would believe that God would make his people who have believed in God and taken Jesus into their heart be put through a tribulation.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:51 am to
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Sure why?


You asked if I indicated fear in your OP.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:52 am to
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He's your Lord too, except you'll find out when it's too late. You WILL kneel before Him


Sure thing.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:53 am to
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And I'm not being a smartass, but I didn't read anything in the OP post about being worried. Seems to me like he was just giving a PSA from a religious perspective, nothing more.


Cool.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
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Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:56 am to
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Proceeds to try and be a biblical and historical scholar, and throws in some wacko religious tripe.


But unlike yourself, did not present himself as an arrogant know it all when the true bottom line reality is, you don’t KNOW anymore than he does or anyone else KNOWS when it comes to such matters.

You may think you KNOW, and good for you. But you really don’t KNOW shite.

None of us do. Many people possess faith. If that bothers you, too bad. Get over it.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:00 am to
Trying to apply Old Testament prophecies to a time and place that it was never meant to be applied isn’t scholarly. It’s End Times obsession by certain Protestants who try to apply nearly every conceivable event from Hitler to 9/11 to Biblical Prophecy
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:01 am to
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People can scoff, but Bible prophecy is being played out before us in real time.


You were put on this earth to worship jewish people and help fund the israeli state. Hashem bless you goyim, you are one of the good ones
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:03 am to
Jesus says he nor the angels know the day or time of his return only the Father in Heaven yet you and other Christians obsessed with Biblical Prophecies have figured it out? Lol it’s complete nonsense and something Jesus never taught except for being ready
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63683 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:05 am to
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But unlike yourself, did not present himself as an arrogant know it all when the true bottom line reality is, you don’t KNOW anymore than he does or anyone else KNOWS when it comes to such matters.

You may think you KNOW, and good for you. But you really don’t KNOW shite.

None of us do. Many people possess faith. If that bothers you, too bad. Get over it.


I don't "know it all", and have not presented myself as someone who does. You are just offended because I pointed out one thing that I do know.

Some Old Testament "prophesies" did not predict this conflict anymore than a Nostradamus "prophecy" predicted 9/11.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:16 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:08 am to
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Jesus says he nor the angels know the day or time of his return only the Father in Heaven yet you and other Christians obsessed with Biblical Prophecies have figured it out? Lol it’s complete nonsense and something Jesus never taught except for being ready


Show me anywhere in my writings where I tried to pinpoint a day or hour of Jesus’ return.
Even so, Jesus himself talks about certain things and signs that must occur before his return and how to be ready.
Do you discount Jesus’ own warnings to be watchful and ready?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:08 am to
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People can scoff, but Bible prophecy is being played out before us in real time.


Is the Mississippi River going dry? Is the interest up? Is the stock market down? Do people get mugged when they go downtown? Those are the signs I'm looking for.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:15 am to
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Yikes. I’d hate to be a Christian that would believe that God would make his people who have believed in God and taken Jesus into their heart be put through a tribulation.


People have an erroneous idea that Christians are suppose to have an easy life, free from persecution or tribulation. Jesus said the opposite, and said we should expect it.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:18 am to
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It’s End Times obsession by certain Protestants who try to apply nearly every conceivable event from Hitler to 9/11 to Biblical Prophecy


Even Jesus’ own disciples asked him about when the end times would come. It’s human nature to be curious.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
15297 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:22 am to
Ezekiel 38-39 also says that God intervenes and defeats the attackers.

So why are we wasting our money and soldiers if God is supposed to step in and solve the problem?
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:42 am to
Morning Revelator, I am a biblical prophesy scholar by work load, been preaching for 40 years and I was specifically called unto a prophetic bent, when you get a vision and are told from a booming voice above that "The Man of Sin is Here" you know your calling, if you know what I mean. I also am a big history buff type guy, always have been. I do nit fudge or fall for lame stuff. For instance I think God created the Universe and earth over a 13.7 Billion year time frame, its quite obvious.

I have blogs on Babylon, Gog and Magog, where the Anti-Christ must be born because of one verse, Dan. 8:9 and why Dan. 7:7-8 shows the E.U. as the 10 Kings and Greece (Dan. 8:9) is in the E.U. And the 7 Heads and 10 Horns are easy to explain, the Hebrew language had like 4000 words and no vowels, the current English has 500,000. So God used numbers and He also used words for many varied things, YOWM does mean day mostly, but its used for every time mention, then the CONTEXT explains the time frame being spoken about, ala YOWN can be a day, month, year, a TIME PERIOD in general, X whole, a Season etc. about 50 things, so when God used YOWM at creation He was referring unto TIME PERIODS in general, the first "day" (Yowm or time period) thus lasted 9.2 billion years.

Likewise, the 7 Heads of this "FIGURATIVE" Beast are 7 Nations who ruled over Israel and sought to destroy Israel. Egypt, Assyria who toted off the Northern Kingdoms (but no tribes were ever LOST because seed from each tribe REMAINED in Judah, no one gets that), Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, then the 6th Head received the MORTAL WOUND spoken about in Rev. 13, why?

Because we the Church could not be overcome by the Gates of Hell and because Israel were as Dead Men's Bones (Ezekiel 37) unto God for nigh 2000 years. So, this figurative Beast went back into the Great Sea and will not return again, and could not return again until Israel was REBORN and until after the Pre Trib. Rapture. So, WHAT HEALS THE MORATAL WOUND? The E.U. President, will Conquer Israel and the WHOLE Mediterranean Sea Region (see Dan. 11:40-43 it is VERY CLEAR, pssstt, that very passage says he can't conquer Moab, Edom and Ammon, guess what is there? the Petra/Bozrah area where Israel flees unto in the Mountains of Jordan.....BOOM) This HEALS THE MORTAL WOUND in Rev. 13, and thus the Anti-Christ alone is the 7th Head that is why his number is 666 because 6 is the number God gave to represent man.

The truth is most of these cats have no clue what is coming, Israel was reborn in 1948, in Ezekiel we are told the Dead Men's Bones would only be revived at the VERY END !! What country is born in ONE DAY one prophesy says? Who can do such a thing? Only God is the answer to the Prophets question, only Israel was born in ONE DAY because the Nations voted them to be a nation via a pen signing by said Nations. Why is the LAST BEAST a man? Because he never passes his kingdom on like the other 6 did, Jesus shows up and slays him WITHOUT HANDS see Daniel 8:25, the Prince of princes (Jesus) slays this Beast WITHOUT HANDS.

Most of these guys will not engage because they really know nothing.



This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 11:01 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:58 am to
I really thank you taking the time to post what you posted and I will look more into what you said when I have time. Your post is greatly appreciated.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 11:01 am to
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I don’t pretend to be a historical or biblical scholar, but this is my understanding of both Iran and Iraq. If this is correct, the Bible has lots to say about both, and how they will be used in the last end times scenario.

People can scoff, but Bible prophecy is being played out before us in real time.


Sure if you subscribe to Dispensationalism...which Christians didnt for 2000 years
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