re: People Rooting For The U.S. Military To Serve As Bibi’s Palace Guard Can Get Fricked.

Iranians in Teheran are laughing at Tucker and Megyn for being complete idiots. FACT

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That is pure baloney. Relative to Iran and based on their GDP, Saudi Arabia and Turkey both have the capability to deter Iranian hegemony in the reason.

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That's foolish.

What could either of them do short of racing for nukes themselves?

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Qatar and the U.A.E. also have economies much larger than that of Iran

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Slavers owning a slave population they fear.

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Along with Israel, these wealthy nations are perfectly capable of forming a coalition to counter Iranian aggression.

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To do what, cheap bullshite like you continue to do.

Play it out, what exactly do they do to an Iran that is determined to reach a bomb.

Speaking for myself, North Korea actually has nukes, ICBMs, and is 1000 miles closer to the US mainland.
They shout the same “Death to the American Imperialists” and “We want to feel the warmth from the fire that we will reign down on America” - basically the same stuff that we are told the Iranians say. I sleep just fine at night knowing that.
My point is - given what I just laid out, N. Korea is actually a bigger threat than Iran. That’s a fact. But nobody really cares, or to say another way - we certainly don’t talk about it all that much. When it comes to talking about Iran there’s always this sense of urgency that comes with the topic. Who’s always talking about “… time left before Iran can build a bomb”? …it’s Israel, because they would be more affected than anyone else. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone from Israel talk about the threat N. Korea poses even though it’s way more real as we sit here today.
The whole thing is just exhausting.

Trump of late has been a complete disappointment. He continues to dig himself a deeper hole with his constant and consistent betrayal of his Maga base. Iran, Israel, gas prices, cost of living.

Buddies with the likes of Lindsey Graham and the other Neocons of the republican party while turning his back on those who campaigned for him and alongside his Maga sales pitch.

frick him and all politicians. Time for a turnover in America. If the American people aren't willing to do the hard part, we are finished

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This is a false dichotomy: nuclear weapons aren’t the only meaningful deterrent to Iranian aggression. Again, Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia all have the economic scale, conventional forces and strategic motivation to counterbalance Iranian aggression.

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We know that doesn't work, you are blind, this is great proof that anyone who listened to you followed a blind fool.
Thats what happened and they still went for a nuke. Those countries have no conventional force large enough to invade Iran, ours is far larger and even we shouldn't do it.

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A coordinated regional bloc of these powers — including the other Gulf Kingdoms — can effectively constrain Iranian hegemonic ambitions.

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You haven't understood anything about this have you, you must believe there are fools here who will listen to your already disproven claims...

Who are these fools you target?

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And here we have come full circle. This is EXACTLY why no American blood or treasure should be spent defending these medieval, theocratic regimes. Again, you are arguing my point for me.

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Agreed, if nukes and long range missiles weren't on the table we should keep the hell out.

But they are and we either stop it or we allow them the capacity to strike us.

You can pretend that it wont happen but everyone else can see clearly what Iran is moving towards.

Oh look. One of the board Jtards is Jtarding.

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We know that doesn't work

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This strategy hasn’t “worked” because it hasn’t been tried. And that is because Israel and Saudi Arabia, in particular, know that the U.S. would step in as their ultimate security guarantors — essentially acting as their “palace guard” against potential Iranian threats

Based on the most current data, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel certainly have the economic scale and military capabilities to deter or counter Iranian aggression without relying solely on nuclear weapons. The individual defense budgets of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel far exceed that of Iran’s defense budget.

When combined, the defense budgets of these 3 countries overwhelmingly outmatch Iran’s defense budget. Likewise, the combined armies of these 3 nations far outnumber Iran’s forces.

Alone, these 3 powers possess significant economic and military advantages over Iran; they certainly are capable of leveraging these advantages to deter Iranian aggression. A strategic positioning of their combined forces would provide Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel a solid foundation to deter or defend against Iranian ambitions through conventional forces.

Defense Budget by Country (2026)

Mapped: The Biggest Armies in the Middle East…

With that out of the way, on to this:

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you are blind, this is great proof that anyone who listened to you followed a blind fool.

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Every exchange I have had with you ends with you resorting to ad hominem attacks because you simply are incapable of offering substantial rebuttals.

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You haven't understood anything about this have you, you must believe there are fools here who will listen to your already disproven claims...

Who are these fools you target?

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You haven’t disproven anything. You are a brainwashed tool who believes that American lives should be endangered protecting the sovereignty of medieval, autocratic regimes.

I suppose since Trump now says MAGA is whatever Trump says it is, you can call your support for this war of choice a MAGA position. Yet it certainly isn’t a conservative position, if by “conservative” you mean an adherence to the principles of limited government.

This type of military interventionism is the very opposite of any conservative impulse. Just like domestic welfare, the U.S. acting as the Middle East’s permanent militarized nanny is a form of welfare.

Whether it’s benefiting politically connected constituents or foreign nations, this is a blatant wealth redistribution scheme. It is Welfare Statism, plain and simple.

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This strategy hasn’t “worked” because it hasn’t been tried.

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Just like communism right?
Like the mass embargo of Iran that China undermines...

Noo but this time it will work.

Thats laughable lack of thought.

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The individual defense budgets of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel far exceed that of Iran’s defense budget.

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Like Russia vs Ukraine right?

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ad hominem attacks because you simply are incapable of offering substantial rebuttals.

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No, its a statement of fact.
You reason poorly, you press the I believe button based on some random thoughts you throw out.

Look at this foolishness, bigger defense budget means a country would be able to prevent another country from acquiring nukes.
How?
Go through the actual process, what do they do with this money, how many Saudis need to die? What will happen.

Iran is huge, if they could be stopped so easily they would have been stopped by the world's superpower and its alliance before this.

Im being truthful and you dont like it.
Im not downvoting you because its so ridiculous.

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Alone, these 3 powers possess significant economic and military advantages over Iran; they certainly are capable of leveraging these advantages to deter Iranian aggression. A strategic positioning of their combined forces would provide Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel a solid foundation to deter or defend against Iranian ambitions through conventional forces.

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Well, the problem with that is that any potential alliance would impede Israeli ambitions in a direct way. The fact of the matter is their inclusion poisons any potential alliance outright. Secondly, Turkey and the KSA have a complicated relationship which only a decade ago (actually, less than that) was fractious due to being on opposite sides of the Syrian Civil War. Now that theater is closed, there could be real rapprochement, but we are also talking about levels of diplomacy that requires decades of work. There is no immediate answer for Iranian aggression, but none of this ever answers why the Iranians are as aggressive as they are.

The great irony is believing that a new regime, unsanctioned and able to operate freely in international markets, would somehow change geopolitical aspirations which have been consistent from earlier eras, namely, access to the Mediterranean, the Indian Ocean and Central Asia. Indeed, if people had been paying attention to anything, they would have noticed that the overtures to Lebanese Shia started under the Shah, as well as the desire for a nuclear program. It was even the Israelis who, in the late 70's, were trying to sell missiles to Tehran by mentioning they could be adapted for nuclear warheads.

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Well, the problem with that is that any potential alliance would impede Israeli ambitions in a direct way. The fact of the matter is their inclusion poisons any potential alliance outright. Secondly, Turkey and the KSA have a complicated relationship which only a decade ago (actually, less than that) was fractious due to being on opposite sides of the Syrian Civil War.

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Certainly, the Turks and the Arabs haven’t always seen eye-to-eye. All I know is that decades of U.S. military intervention in the region has done nothing to lessen the ancient sectarian rivalries in the region.

Yet that leads again to my over-arching point: it’s time to empower these nations to take real ownership of their own collective security. Just as they can jointly counter Iranian ambitions, Turkey and Saudi Arabia can likewise act as a counterbalance to each other’s regional influence.