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re: People Basically Approving of the Murder of the United Healthcare CEO
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:14 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:14 am to wackatimesthree
They paid for the roof 2 years after denying because I threatened to sue. I guarantee you most people give up. My next door neighbor had their claim handled immediately by the same company.
But yea they handled my contract within the terms. I was fortunate to have the time and resources to fight along with a good friend in the insurance industry that told me how to pursue and ultimately an insider that got assigned to my claim gave me information that I should not have had. She saw what they were doing and knew I was right. They established an install date on my house that was the date the house built denying all the evidence showing them from 3rd parties they had made an “error”.
My wife could not get any form of treatment covered because insurance denied everything. Doctor got pissed and stayed on it. Eventually his persistence got it covered. Sure we could have gone out of pocket but that’s not the fricking point. I had already gone out of pocket with the premiums. A specialist recommended a course of treatment they that denied instantly.
You seem to argue that it is appropriate and within the terms of the contract for insurance to deny claims because they have been subjected to fraud. Show there is fraud then deny.
But yea tell me how they handled my claims appropriately.
I never advocated for government involvement. Just that people in the thread were calling people abhorrent because they don’t give a shite that some CEO of a company with a strong record of taking advantage of people got killed. I wouldn’t go that route but the a-hole oversaw a company that likely cost people their lives and not going to shed a tear.
But yea they handled my contract within the terms. I was fortunate to have the time and resources to fight along with a good friend in the insurance industry that told me how to pursue and ultimately an insider that got assigned to my claim gave me information that I should not have had. She saw what they were doing and knew I was right. They established an install date on my house that was the date the house built denying all the evidence showing them from 3rd parties they had made an “error”.
My wife could not get any form of treatment covered because insurance denied everything. Doctor got pissed and stayed on it. Eventually his persistence got it covered. Sure we could have gone out of pocket but that’s not the fricking point. I had already gone out of pocket with the premiums. A specialist recommended a course of treatment they that denied instantly.
You seem to argue that it is appropriate and within the terms of the contract for insurance to deny claims because they have been subjected to fraud. Show there is fraud then deny.
But yea tell me how they handled my claims appropriately.
I never advocated for government involvement. Just that people in the thread were calling people abhorrent because they don’t give a shite that some CEO of a company with a strong record of taking advantage of people got killed. I wouldn’t go that route but the a-hole oversaw a company that likely cost people their lives and not going to shed a tear.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:22 am to cubsfan5150
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Media Basically Approving of the Murder of the United Healthcare CEO
FIFY
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:24 am to fisherscatfan
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I wouldn’t go that route but the a-hole oversaw a company that likely cost people their lives and not going to shed a tear.
When I read stuff like this, I always assume government worker.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:25 am to Hogbit
quote:Sure. If you'd prefer to keep your money, you can. No one is forced to get treatment.
You do realize healthcare can and and does bankrupt millions annually, right?
quote:Sure. That's a direct result of "someone else" paying. Yet, you're defending that model, while simultaneously describing it as a "rip off".
You believe healthcare is not overpriced as it relates to the wages of common americans?
Consumers: "My insurance rates are too high! Healthcare is too expensive, someone should make it cheaper."
Inusrers: "OK, we will deny excessive bills, overpriced drugs and treatments, and won't pay inflated costs anymore"
Consuers: "You're denying my care!! We need to murder CEOs".
It's crazy town.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
Well you would be dead nuts wrong.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:27 am to Hogbit
quote:I mean.. yeah. If you don't think insurance is worth the price. Don't buy it. You accused me of being "emotional", but you're the one that can't seem to rationally evaluate price/benefits.
Get fricked over on insurance, or die from an illness. Your choice.
quote:Yeah. I have no idea why you're treating insurance as some sort of salvation. That should be cost-free.
FYI, you may still die from the illness if your health insurance provider deems your care not worthy of their money.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:31 am to Hogbit
quote:"But don't you dare ever, under any circumstances, deny any claim"
An absolute shitload of that blame lays with insurance providers.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I've come to learn that people have no idea what insurance is, or what it's for. They think it should be cheap, but pay out for them more than they pay in. But so does everyone else. Everyone want to take out more than they put in. There's no way that can work.
Just pay your own way then and avoid insurance.
And since they don't understand that simple principle, they land on 'it's a scam". It's the same fallacy socialists rely on.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:38 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Without govt, you get competition which solves many of the issues you have with insurance.
Let me see if I can find the post where some arky fan talks about getting gov out of medical decisions.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:37 am to Taxing Authority
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And since they don't understand that simple principle, they land on 'it's a scam". It's the same fallacy socialists rely on.
Yeah reading comments on this board pertaining to this issue is extremely disheartening. Its like being on DU or Reddit.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:38 am to Hogbit
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you get dealt with real quick. I have no issue with it
No issue with someone being gunned down in front a hotel?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:38 am to Hogbit
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Let me see if I can find the post where some arky fan talks about getting gov out of medical decisions.
Thats not what you said. You said insurance and govt.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:39 am to Hogbit
quote:I have a bunch of docs in my family. None of them turn down cash.
Would be awesome if the world worked that way, but we both know it doesn't.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:41 am to fisherscatfan
quote:Good luck finding a post where I defend UHC as a good company.
I’m as big a personal accountability guy as anyone but your take on insurance companies is very odd.
The insurance companies sell a “product” and gladly take the money for it. Then when it comes time to pay, UHC denied at twice the industry rate.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:42 am to Hogbit
quote:Yet you argue against paying for it yourself. It's odd. It sounds like you want to be a victim.
I would prefer to get gov and insurance completely out of the equation. Health insurance costs would plummet.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:42 am to The Baker
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Exactly! I see you’ve come around to my point of view.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:43 am to Hogbit
quote:We're all going to die.
People must die.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I dont know him, it is you who is pretending like you do.
Murder is wrong. There is a side to this guy none of us know. did he have a wife and kids? Idk but there were people who loved him and cared about him.
There is a difference between condoning his murder and condemning his actions in life.
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