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Pentagon warns China is an even bigger threat than we thought

Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Amazing Moves
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:29 pm
Fox News

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Warnings of regional threats have largely focused on North Korea’s nuclear missile programs, and Russia’s recent unveiling of a heap of deadly new weapons. But a top Pentagon official has just issued a new warning: China is creating advanced futuristic weapons capable of wiping out the west’s current military technology.


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“China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) is developing and fielding numerous advanced, long-range land-attack and anti-ship cruise missiles, some capable of reaching supersonic speeds, operated from ground, air, ship, and submarine platforms,” he said. He said the rising superpower is also working on a bomber with a nuclear mission, which would give Beijing a nuclear triad of land, air and sea-based nuclear weapon systems.


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But according to Ashley, the threat China poses is just as dire. He warned its military is developing capabilities to “dissuade, deter or defeat” any potential intervention from a third-party nation.




So this came from a Pentagon source. Russia was saber rattling last week. My question is..

How big of a step has China really taken and, what has the US done in response to these threats? How do we compare? A military discussion would be appreciated.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:34 pm to
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How big of a step has China really taken and, what has the US done in response to these threats? How do we compare?


I really do believe in our dear leader, but I don't want to find this out.

A war with China is one where we all lose.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:36 pm to
We can wait china out

A. They are old (one child policy and what not)

B. They are turning back to the old communist ways

We should remove the chains and let the free market roll. We'll put Russia and China in the rear view in a decade
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

How big of a step has China really taken and, what has the US done in response to these threats? How do we compare? A military discussion would be appreciated.

They may be developing some badass equipment but their grounds troops are largely untested. We'd kick their arse in a ground war and YES I know they have a large Army.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:39 pm to
They don't want war either, they just want a military powerful enough to discourage the US from intervening in their upcoming land(ocean) grabs for resources.

We will continue to do FONOPS, and they won't prevent that. But I doubt we interfere when they start drilling in others Economic Zones. It's coming.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:57 pm to
Will the US continue to allow them to build islands in international waters?

also,

How does our military compare to theirs?
Posted by pecxs
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:58 pm to
The so called "one-child" rule has been out for more than 5 years.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:04 pm to
NK fear mongering fails so...oh yea the Red Menace lets see if that will stick. ISIS failed. Syria failed. Russia failed. NK failed.

And around we go.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

How big of a step has China really taken
Its more than one step. And they’re huge steps at that. China will outclass our military in 15 years or less.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:06 pm to
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We can wait china out

No. we can’t. They’re the ones playing the long game.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5509 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:08 pm to
Russia from an economic stand point is weak. Terrible GDP and standard of living there sucks. China is the only real threat
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:11 pm to
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Will the US continue to allow them to build islands in international waters?


Yep. They are good for projecting power - which is all they are after so they can drill. I don't think we care about that as long as we maintain FONOPS.

In an actual war, those islands are difficult to defend and actually become a liability.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:11 pm to
And they think we should ban guns.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:14 pm to
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They’re the ones playing the long game.


China plans 100 years out. We can hardly plan 100 days out
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:17 pm to
Yeah we think in term of election cycles. They think in terms of generations.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8322 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:18 pm to
I agree with you as it stands right now. But when we factor in their soon to be fully implemented citizen score system alongside the recent move to remove presidential term limits, all of the pieces are being put into place for an effective modern dictatorship built on intense nationalist pride. When that’s combined with a world class military, this country is as likely as any other to start the next world war in a few decades.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101293 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Yep. They are good for projecting power - which is all they are after so they can drill. I don't think we care about that as long as we maintain FONOPS.

In an actual war, those islands are difficult to defend and actually become a liability.


Yeah, sort of strikes me as the 21st century version of the Maginot Line.
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:24 pm to
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No. we can’t. They’re the ones playing the long game.

Communism is not the long game, are you serious? The free market is the only weapon we need, we just need to use it. Communism is very tough to beat in a war but it simply can not last economically
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

China plans 100 years out. We can hardly plan 100 days out


They can plan 1000 years out. Economically speaking communism can not and will not last.
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