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re: PBD: British Imperial Expert: The Force Behind King Charles, Iran & Every War Since 1900
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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Example of them being retarded
Exactly!!! Everyone knows, it was the Jooos who created communism and radical Islam.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
You're comparing a vault to a switchboard. New York has higher domestic GDP because it houses the world's wealth, but London is the plumbing that moves it. London handles nearly double the daily Foreign Exchange volume of New York and manages the Eurodollar market.
The trillions of offshore US dollars that American banks themselves rely on for daily liquidity and international settlement.
This isn't the US 'allowing' influence; it’s a structural dependency. New York is the world’s largest engine, but London is the transmission without it, the engine just spins in place
The trillions of offshore US dollars that American banks themselves rely on for daily liquidity and international settlement.
This isn't the US 'allowing' influence; it’s a structural dependency. New York is the world’s largest engine, but London is the transmission without it, the engine just spins in place
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:35 am to SDVTiger
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That is a glorious melt
I must be out of touch on what a “melt” is. I disagreed with the post. I did so in an unemotional, fact-based manner. Is that a melt? Okay then, I’m melty.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:41 am to lake chuck fan
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British influence is exactly what they discuss. I've never heard them talk about Britain having military power nor other power over the US.
That the London banking system, especially their offshore banking, has financial power is factual.
They assert that the British have the power to control warfare. That all of the major wars are caused by the British. That’s is foolishness. And I pointed out some of the idiocies in her presentation. She spends the first ten minutes on a solid fact-based explanation that gets her audience trusting her, and then she goes off the rails with an error a minute. I pointed out the first couple, but I’m just not going to waste my time on the rest.
Sure the British have a little power - it’s about the amount you would expect of a former great power sunk to a middling second rate power.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:47 am to SDVTiger
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New York has higher domestic GDP because it houses the world's wealth, but London is the plumbing that moves it. London handles nearly double the daily Foreign Exchange volume of New York and manages the Eurodollar market.
a. Why frame it only in terms of foreign exchange? What is the difference in total volume of all trading daily? And what does that say about the difference in scope/power of each system?
b. How does this create influence on the US, especially in spite of the implications of what should be a logical conclusion from a?
c. Which AI did you use to provide that response?
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:50 am to Penrod
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They assert that the British have the power to control warfare. That all of the major wars are caused by the British. That’s is foolishness.
Correct.
A logical conclusion from this Iran conflict is that the UK has very limited international power in terms of warfare, showing their decline since WW1.
Their conclusion, however, is that the US somehow created this in a matter of 2 months or so, and they never exactly explain how.
And they rely on people forgetting their previous "checkmates" like when Trump said he'd insure the loads through the Straight, which they argued killed the London bankers/Lloyds, however, ships still aren't flowing much and that is largely due to insurance concerns. But we're supposed to forget they argued this months ago as they create a new, shiny object to focus on.
Checkmate, Trump
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
Comparing banking GDP is a metric of where bankers get paid, not where the world’s financial plumbing is located. While New York dominates in Equities (stocks), London handles the Wholesale Liquidity that makes the US system possible. According to the 2025 BIS data, London processes roughly $3.8 trillion daily in Foreign Exchange nearly triple New York’s volume and controls the vast majority of the Interest Rate Derivative market.
?Why does this create influence? Because those derivatives set the price of debt for US corporations and the mortgage rates for American homeowners. If London stops trading dollar-denominated swaps, the 'expansive' US system loses its ability to hedge risk and its access to 'overnight' liquidity. New York is the world’s biggest storefront, but London is the global warehouse and delivery network if the warehouse closes, the store has nothing to sell
You think the "Size of the Bank Account" (GDP) equals "Control of the System." It doesn't. In finance, the person who controls the pipes has more influence than the person who owns the water
?Why does this create influence? Because those derivatives set the price of debt for US corporations and the mortgage rates for American homeowners. If London stops trading dollar-denominated swaps, the 'expansive' US system loses its ability to hedge risk and its access to 'overnight' liquidity. New York is the world’s biggest storefront, but London is the global warehouse and delivery network if the warehouse closes, the store has nothing to sell
You think the "Size of the Bank Account" (GDP) equals "Control of the System." It doesn't. In finance, the person who controls the pipes has more influence than the person who owns the water
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
I think Trump is doing a good job on Iran. He is feeling his way through a complicated situation, so of course things are not going exactly according to a pre-conflict plan. But I applaud his willingness to spend political capital solving an increasingly dangerous problem that he could have just kicked down the road.
I’m optimistic that there will be a good resolution to this war, one that will transform the Middle East and be a boon to future generations.
Of negligible importance: I’m very puzzled at your insistence on spelling “Strait” wrong. It has to be intentional at this point?
I’m optimistic that there will be a good resolution to this war, one that will transform the Middle East and be a boon to future generations.
Of negligible importance: I’m very puzzled at your insistence on spelling “Strait” wrong. It has to be intentional at this point?
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:58 am to SDVTiger
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Comparing banking GDP is a metric of where bankers get paid, not where the world’s financial plumbing is located. While New York dominates in Equities (stocks), London handles the Wholesale Liquidity that makes the US system possible. According to the 2025 BIS data, London processes roughly $3.8 trillion daily in Foreign Exchange nearly triple New York’s volume and controls the vast majority of the Interest Rate Derivative market.
?Why does this create influence? Because those derivatives set the price of debt for US corporations and the mortgage rates for American homeowners. If London stops trading dollar-denominated swaps, the 'expansive' US system loses its ability to hedge risk and its access to 'overnight' liquidity. New York is the world’s biggest storefront, but London is the global warehouse and delivery network if the warehouse closes, the store has nothing to sell
You think the "Size of the Bank Account" (GDP) equals "Control of the System." It doesn't. In finance, the person who controls the pipes has more influence than the person who owns the water
Which AI provided this response?
The misplaced ? gives it away, FYI.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:59 am to Penrod
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Of negligible importance: I’m very puzzled at your insistence on spelling “Strait” wrong. It has to be intentional at this point?
Just typing too fast and not thinking about that minutia
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:08 am to TrueTiger
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So wait, it was Britain behind all the mischief?
I was told that it was the jews.
These are not mutually exclusive.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:09 am to SDVTiger
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You just got destroyed
No, your AI response wasn't exactly responsive. I imagine you're inputting bad prompts.
You keep focusing on only a small part of the equation, and I pointed out that framing.
The US doesn't rely on international markets as highly as London, and that should have keyed you into the issue that the US has become so dominant that so much of the worldwide market is here that we don't have to rely as much on foreign trading. The larger impact is that it shows how much more influence we have than the UK as we don't have to rely on as much trading outside of our domestic market.
But I'll just have AI confirm this:
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The argument presented uses a classic "plumbing vs. storefront" analogy to mask a shift in the global financial hierarchy. While the technical data regarding London’s Foreign Exchange (FX) and Interest Rate Derivative (IRD) volumes is accurate, the conclusion—that this creates a relationship of British control over the U.S.—is a fundamental misreading of financial sovereignty and market depth.
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1. The "International" Trap: Dominance vs. Dependence
The central flaw in the argument is the conflation of transactional volume with systemic authority. London’s massive FX and derivative numbers are high specifically because the UK’s domestic economy is too small to sustain its banking sector. It must act as a global clearinghouse to survive.
Conversely, the U.S. banking industry has achieved such a level of domestic scale and vertical integration that it does not require "international trading" in the same way. The U.S. system is a self-sustaining ecosystem; the "water" (capital) and the "pipes" (clearing) are increasingly housed within the same borders. New York handles the equities, the debt issuance, and the primary regulation. London is essentially a high-volume service provider for a product—the U.S. Dollar—that it does not control.
2. The Liquidity Illusion
The argument suggests that if London "stopped trading dollar-denominated swaps," the U.S. would lose its ability to hedge risk. This is a logistical misunderstanding:
Mobility of Capital: Liquidity is not a physical commodity stored in a London warehouse; it is digital and mobile. If London’s regulatory or geopolitical environment became hostile, that $3.8 trillion in daily volume would migrate to New York, Singapore, or Paris within a business cycle.
The Fed as the Ultimate Plumber: The "overnight liquidity" the argument mentions ultimately flows from the Federal Reserve. Through swap lines and the repo market, the U.S. central bank—not the City of London—is the lender of last resort that keeps the "pipes" pressurized.
3. Influence: The Regulatory Reality
In finance, true influence is the power to set the rules. Over the last decade, the U.S. has moved the "pipes" through regulation:
Extraterritoriality: Through the Dodd-Frank Act and the power of the Treasury, the U.S. effectively dictates how dollar-denominated trades are handled worldwide.
Onshoring: Since the 2008 crisis, there has been a massive push to move derivative clearing to U.S.-based Central Counterparties (CCPs).
4. The Storefront vs. Warehouse Analogy
The analogy that "the store has nothing to sell if the warehouse closes" is backwards. In the global economy, the U.S. is the Manufacturer, the Store, and the Currency. London is the logistics contractor. If a logistics contractor goes on strike, the manufacturer may face a temporary backlog, but they simply hire a new contractor or build their own fleet.
I don't need AI to formulate responses, but I'll use it to confirm that I'm right (like usual) if you desire.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 9:12 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:15 am to Penrod
quote:Remember hearing about how ISIS was created so that there is always a boogeyman. Think about all those men lined up at the ocean shore to be beheaded and cages being dropped in pools with people in them to drown.
They assert that the British have the power to control warfare.
Notice that propaganda isn't all over TV's anymore? They moved on to scary scary Iran. I think this lady in the OP gets detailc about how the U K is a part of making Iran the new ISIS bogeyman.
They are like the head of an octopus, and their tentacles can influence a war In 12 hours. Think about why they used Lloyds of London insurance cut off for the first time in 50 years... to get Trump in a box and stop him. Why would the UK give a flip about Iran?
They cared because they knew that Donald J Trump would be the only US president that had the balls to really take out their boogeyman. Once and for all.
Long gone thank God are the days of the UN sending their stupid Hans Blitz lol.... to check on nuclear bombs uranium.. Think about why the UN hate Israel's guts And places Iran high on the committees.
I just ran through this doing speak to text real quick.. I haven't read any of it but it looks like there's some great discussion going on In this thread... that's nice for a change...
Even SFP.... But we know he doubts everything... Calls everything crazy And everybody in the whole wide world is wrong but he is right.....
I'll catch up to this thread later.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:19 am to cajunangelle
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Remember hearing about how ISIS was created so that there is always a boogeyman. Think about all those men lined up at the ocean shore to be beheaded and cages being dropped in pools with people in them to drown.
Notice that propaganda isn't all over TV's anymore? They moved on to scary scary Iran. I think this lady in the OP gets detailc about how the U K is a part of making Iran the new ISIS bogeyman.
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
The 'Contractor' analogy fails because you can't fire a contractor who holds your oxygen tank. London isn't just a 'service provider'; it is the home of the Eurodollar market—the $13 trillion shadow currency system that the Federal Reserve cannot fully control or onshore. If London’s liquidity dries up, the 'Self-Sustaining U.S. Ecosystem' collapses because U.S. banks are the ones borrowing those offshore dollars to fund their domestic operations. We don't 'allow' London to have influence; we rely on it as a regulatory and time-zone pressure valve that New York physically and legally cannot replicate. You're describing a king who thinks he’s independent of his farmers—until the crops fail and the castle starves
Question for your AI
If the U.S. is so self-sustaining and London is just a 'contractor,' why did the U.S. Federal Reserve have to open trillions of dollars in Central Bank Swap Lines to support foreign banks in London during every major crisis (2008, 2020, 2023)? If we didn't need them, we would have let them fail. We saved them because their failure would have burned New York to the ground
Question for your AI
If the U.S. is so self-sustaining and London is just a 'contractor,' why did the U.S. Federal Reserve have to open trillions of dollars in Central Bank Swap Lines to support foreign banks in London during every major crisis (2008, 2020, 2023)? If we didn't need them, we would have let them fail. We saved them because their failure would have burned New York to the ground
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:21 am to cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:51 am to cajunangelle
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:02 am to Penrod
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:10 am to cajunangelle
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Think about why they used Lloyds of London insurance cut off for the first time in 50 years... to get Trump in a box and stop him. Why would the UK give a flip about Iran?
Lloyds isn’t “The UK”. It’s a UK based company. Its motive is to make money. It sells a product - insurance - which has a revenue and a cost. The revenue is what it charges its customers (the ship owners). Its cost is the amount underwritten multiplied times the likelihood that they will have to pay.
The revenue side, or the amount they charge, is calculated by adding a profit to the cost amount. When the war started, the likelihood of a payout shot through the roof, making all of their deals go to negative profit.
Lloyds have been in the business for centuries, and they have learned to write their contracts so that they can cancel them in the event of force majuere. This was a classic case. Lloyds canceled the contract for perfectly sound business reasons.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 11:12 am
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