re: Paul Manafort has ties to the Podesta Group

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The issue is that the Clintons colluded with Russia. Not Trump. Yet you and the rest of the lefties have been apoplectic about collusion for months.

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The allegations against the Trump campaign centers on collusion with Russia in committing criminal acts, namely the hacking of the Clinton campaign. What criminal acts do you allege the Clintons colluded with Russia to commit?

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Clinton paid a law firm that hired Fusion GPS who has extensive ties with Russia.

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Both Clinton and Republican nominees paid the firm Steele worked for to investigate Trump's Russian ties. Of course they would hire someone with strong contacts in Russia. That's basic oppo research.

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They produce a dossier that Obama uses to get a FISA warrant.

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That's a serious allegation you absolutely cannot back up.

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I have said since day one collusion isn't illegal.

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No, but there are plenty of actions in the "collusion" ballpark that are. Promising foreign policy positions in return for Russia hacking the Podesta email for example.

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What else did they have to get the warrant?

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How the hell would anyone one of us know what all was used to obtain the warrant. Its blind speculation on your part.

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If it's proven that is in fact what happened will you condemn it?

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Depends on so many facts that none of us know anything about. What if an allegation in the dossier was substantially supported by other evidence?

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What if an allegation in the dossier was substantially supported by other evidence?

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If so that's about the only thing that hasn't been leaked so far.

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Paul Manafort has ties to the Podesta Group

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Yes. This has been known since at least April:

Politico: 04/12/17

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Podesta Group files new disclosures in Manafort-linked Ukraine lobbying

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Even CNN reported the link months ago:

CNN: 05/09/17

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Podesta lobby group did not disclose extent of work for Ukrainian campaign advised by Paul Manafort

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Fusion GPS is the direct link between Clinton and Russia.

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If so that's about the only thing that hasn't been leaked so far.

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Was reported a while back.

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(CNN) For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration.

None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.

But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.

The corroboration, based on intercepted communications, has given US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of some aspects of the dossier as they continue to actively investigate its contents, these sources say.

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I wonder what that means about Bill and Hillary having golden shower fetishes

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Well Hillary is a lesbian so I doubt if any of her fetishes involve Bill.

But I'm sure Bill has peed on most of the women in DC.

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Fusion GPS is the direct link between Clinton and Russia.

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Fusion GPS is an oppo research firm that was at one point hired by a US law firm to get information on Bill Browder as I understand it. Maybe there's more to the story you can tell me about.

They have extensive ties with Russia. A quick google search will fill you in. You remember the Russian Attorney that got a meeting with Trump Jr? The only you all claimed was proof of collusion? Guess who she works with? Yep...Fusion GPS.

Clinton campaign paid Fusion GPS.


Finally....Clintons lied about it for over a year.

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They have extensive ties with Russia. A quick google search will fill you in. You remember the Russian Attorney that got a meeting with Trump Jr? The only you all claimed was proof of collusion? Guess who she works with? Yep...Fusion GPS.

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That's what I was referring to. What else?

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Clinton campaign paid Fusion GPS.

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So does everyone that hires Fusion GPS now have ties to the Russian government? That's the implication you are making.