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Patrick Buchanan: What are America's core values?

Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:58 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:58 am
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When did the right to an abortion — a crime in many states before 1973 — become a "core value" of the Democratic Party? And what are these "values" of which politicians incessantly talk? Are they immutable? Or do they change with the changing times?



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This year, Mike Pompeo told the U.S. embassy in Brazil not to fly the rainbow flag. He explained his concept of his moral duty to the Christian Broadcasting Network, "The task I have is informed by my understanding of my faith, my belief in Jesus Christ as the Savior." The Christian values Pompeo espouses on abortion and gay rights are in conflict with what progressives now call human rights.



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To many Americans, diversity — racial, ethnic, cultural, religious — is our greatest strength. Yet Poland and Hungary are proudly ethnonationalist. South Korea and Japan fiercely resist the racial and ethnic diversity immigration would bring. Catalans and Scots in this century, like Quebecois in the last, seek to secede from nations to which they have belonged for centuries. Are ethnonationalist nations less righteous than diverse nations likes ours? And if diversity is an American value, is it really a universal value?



Buchanan raises some interesting issues in this article such as, what are core values? How do we decide who's values are right.
Where does a person derive their values?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:01 am to
Pompeo should have just said

"My duty is America first, so America flag only...."

Gay flags are political in nature, thus no way Jose
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46126 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:04 am to
You can list nearly everything the Dims support or openly advocate for and I believe nothing they bring to society is good for society as a whole. That's the result you get when you simply pander for votes based on voting blocks. These voting blocks that have very little political power on their own but when combined with other leftists who want their sick and twisted agenda forced on society....well, that's how you get the Dim party of today.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:09 am to
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

how do you not know what America's core values are? are you American?
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:11 am to
Capitalism
Constitutional Republic
Bill of Rights
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:20 am to
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 many Americans, diversity — racial, ethnic, cultural, religious — is our greatest strength. Yet Poland and Hungary are proudly ethnonationalist. South Korea and Japan fiercely resist the racial and ethnic diversity immigration would bring. Catalans and Scots in this century, like Quebecois in the last, seek to secede from nations to which they have belonged for centuries. Are ethnonationalist nations less righteous than diverse nations likes ours? And if diversity is an American value, is it really a universal value?


Poland and Hungary have an interesting history. They have generally always been to themselves and not really colonizers like their western European brethren. Same goes for the Japanese.

I think both perspectives are correct because both are natural conclusions to their respective populations. The English and French relied heavily on colonial rule to fund their empires. Their has always been interracial and intercontinental relationships with countries who had successful colonialism.

In order to be just like these other homogeneous societies then you should never have invested in colonialism and empire building.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78657 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:27 am to
Core values :
1. Diversity is our strength . Die old white man, die.
2. You have too much stuff, I want it. Give it to me or else.
3. Hands off my vagina ! But Give me your Free Speech and Guns!
4. Orange Man Bad !
5. (Progressive) Man is God.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:33 am to
Poland history in Animated form

Suibhne has an great history series with 10 minute long videos discussing the history of Poland.

Its important to note that Poland is a country that has rose to prominence only to fall in the Great Northern War and inevitably rise again only to be brought down AGAIN by Russia, Prussia, and Austria.

It makes sense that a people constantly subjugated by their neighbors would be much more nationalistic. You have to take everything in context.
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1752 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:39 am to
You sure don't let the media decide who's values are America's.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17296 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:43 am to
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Same goes for the Japanese.
Ummm...



ETA: One of the worst things that happened to the GOP was the marginalization and excommunication of the Buchananite wing in the 90s.

He summed up our current national predicament very succinctly back in early 2008:
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We are an unserious people in a serious time.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 10:51 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:47 am to
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life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. how do you not know what America's core values are? are you American?



Many Americans don't want other Americans to enjoy those pursuits
Many Americans are good with the pursuit of happiness part, but bad on liberty and life.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 10:51 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 10:54 am to
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Ummm


Oh a historical discussion. Okay.

Admittedly, by colonialism I was referring to occupied territories that were later turned into colonies and ultimately became territories of their occupier.

WW2 occupied territories taken by the Japanese were mostly forfeited by the end of the War.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 11:31 am to
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To many Americans, diversity — racial, ethnic, cultural, religious — is our greatest strength. Yet Poland and Hungary are proudly ethnonationalist. South Korea and Japan fiercely resist the racial and ethnic diversity immigration would bring. Catalans and Scots in this century, like Quebecois in the last, seek to secede from nations to which they have belonged for centuries. Are ethnonationalist nations less righteous than diverse nations likes ours? And if diversity is an American value, is it really a universal value?


Buchanan raises some interesting issues in this article such as, what are core values? How do we decide who's values are right.
Where does a person derive their values?


“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. [Patrick] Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. [Lenora] Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep.”

— Trump, in a statement saying he will not accept the Reform Party nomination for president, Feb. 13, 2000
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 11:32 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58027 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 11:42 am to
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The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. [Patrick] Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. [Lenora] Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep.”


Pat Buchanan a Neo Nazi- please. Y'all throw that word around way too much.

A Klansman? I bet you never blinked an eye about Senator Byrd being a former Grand Wizard?

And I noticed you didn't bold the communists part. That's because the Dem party is full of communists.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 11:55 am
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:26 pm to
Pat....it's called Moral Relativism and that poison has corrupted every institution in this country (and the world) including our legal system.

It's a mess.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36058 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:54 pm to
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Poland and Hungary have an interesting history. They have generally always been to themselves and not really colonizers like their western European brethren. 

Very astute observation. The UK, Belgium, France and Germany all were colonial powers in the 19th and 20th centuries...all are now reaping the consequences of their imperialism.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48315 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:58 pm to
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Capitalism
Constitutional Republic
Bill of Rights


None of these are values
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67950 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:15 pm to
Ever heard of the Austro-Hungarian empire?
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17296 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Admittedly, by colonialism I was referring to occupied territories that were later turned into colonies and ultimately became territories of their occupier.

WW2 occupied territories taken by the Japanese were mostly forfeited by the end of the War.
Would those territories have regained their independence had Japan won the war?

I don't think you can realistically compare 20th century Japan with 20th century Poland and Hungary when it comes to imperial aspirations. But I do admire the Japanese immigration policy.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:40 pm to
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ETA: One of the worst things that happened to the GOP was the marginalization and excommunication of the Buchananite wing in the 90s.


Today, the Buchanan brigades are the only real conservatives left...that's because only they remember what we were trying to conserve in the first place.

If you haven't read his books, do it.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:41 pm
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