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re: PANIC in DC: Pending EPA SCOTUS Ruling Edition
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:13 am to ezride25
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:13 am to ezride25
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Like he did on 2A and RvW?
to be fair... if it was up to Roberts... Roe & Casey would still be the law of the land but Mississippi's 15-week abortion ban would just be considered Constitutional
but it wasn't up to him as he was outvoted by the other 5 conservative Justices
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:15 am to the LSUSaint
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Somebody teach me....if they rule in favor of W Virginia, the 3 letter agencies are neutered of their power. Does this also effect their financial support/funding from the government?
Not really. Just ends their power grab and Presidents' ability to govern by edict.
The USDA putting out a rule that schools cant receive free lunch funding unless they let boys use girls' bathrooms is an overreach of the United States Department of Agriculture. This ruling going to West Virginia would end such bullshite and cut off a lot of the deep state's power.
Instead, Congress would have to vote for this nonsense they are pushing down. I don't think the USDA rule above would pass the House, much less get 60 votes in the Senate. The progressives want this sort of crap and they know it won't pass (Pelosi likely wouldn't even assign it to committee), but with Biden in the WH, they can direct the USDA to do it and it doesn't cost anyone any political capital.
Now think of the regulations that have been pushed down by the EPA, the CDC, the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, etc. over the years. This case is really the biggest of the term, even if its not getting the attention due to Dobbs.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:16 am to Fun Bunch
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This is more important than the abortion decision, to me. I know that sentiment won't be shared. The 4th Branch of Government has to be reined in, significantly.
Abortion was important for states rights and a moral conscience
This decision is way more important as far as maintaining the republic and stopping a radical green new deal and world economic forum agenda from being implemented through agency regulations and intentionally destroying industries they don’t like.
If they want to do that make our elected congressmen pass it. At least they can be held accountable
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:16 am to the LSUSaint
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Somebody teach me....if they rule in favor of W Virginia, the 3 letter agencies are neutered of their power. Does this also effect their financial support/funding from the government?
it just means those 3-letter agencies won't be able to put out "guidelines" that have nearly full force of the law
Congress will actually have to pass legislation to be signed by POTUS into law
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:17 am to squid_hunt
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Gonna be a whole lot more out of work bureaucrats this fall.
Gonna be a whole lot of lips flapping, once they feel betrayed by their Masters who had guaranteed them jobs for life.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:17 am to VoxDawg
Not being for all out abortion is EXTREMIST and protecting the 2nd is EXTREMIST.
Color me E
Color me E
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:17 am to deltaland
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Abortion was important for states rights and a moral conscience
This decision is way more important as far as maintaining the republic and stopping a radical green new deal and world economic forum agenda from being implemented through agency regulations and intentionally destroying industries they don’t like.
I think you will find this ruling is a lot more important for states rights than Dobbs
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:18 am to deltaland
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This. You can’t let unelected bureaucrats hired by executive branch agencies make rules.
It would be like congress wanting to make abortion legal in all 50 states for example. They don’t have the votes to pass legislation so they hand it off to the cdc or dept of health to create some rule or reg making it so. Therein lies the argument. If congress is bound by the legislative process, they don’t have the authority to bypass and cede the process to an outside agency. You’re essentially creating another branch or branches of govt that doesn’t answer to the electorate. Somehow that’s what we’ve done
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:20 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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think it’s coming. This court has been swinging a big dick with these rulings and honestly seems hell bent on raining in the federal government. The momentum is definitely there
I think they’re just as disgusted as we are at what’s going on and have decided to wield their power in a last Hail Mary attempt to fix this nation before it implodes completely.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's funny because this court is basically, pretty clearly, putting the legislative powers back with legislatures.
Legislatures don't want that power. The power does not come with plausible deniability. If WV wins legislative members will have more of a difficult time deflecting blame.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:21 am to rt3
quote:FIFY.
but it wasn't up to him as he was outvoted by the 5 conservative Justices
CJJR is no conservative.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:23 am to themunch
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Not being for all out abortion is EXTREMIST and protecting the 2nd is EXTREMIST.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:23 am to Yaboylsu63
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Anyone else feels shift in the force a bit?
I felt it...as though millions of leftist voices suddenly cried out in terror
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:29 am to TigerCoon
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I felt it...as though millions of leftist voices suddenly cried out in terror
The Reeeeeeeeeeeeeconing
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:37 am to anc
quote:You have to give them enough rope to hang themselves; otherwise, they realize the trap and push just far enough to succeed.
The USDA putting out a rule that schools cant receive free lunch funding unless they let boys use girls' bathrooms is an overreach of the United States Department of Agriculture. This ruling going to West Virginia would end such bullshite and cut off a lot of the deep state's power.
quote:Deep State. And totally unconstitutional in light of the founding fathers' intentions, but allowed by scotus via the delegation doctrine.
But with Biden in the WH, they can direct the USDA to do it and it doesn't cost anyone any political capital.
Scotus broke it. I'm glad we finally have a Scotus that is willing to admit their predecessors fricked up, and are willing to fix it.
Because at this point, only Scotus can fix it.
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Now think of the regulations that have been pushed down by the EPA, the CDC, the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, etc. over the years.
quote:Dobbs is this generation's Brown overturning Plessy.
This case is really the biggest of the term, even if its not getting the attention due to Dobbs.
WV v EPA is the Marbury v Madison, and it may be the biggest Scotus case since Marbury for Constitutionalists and Liberty.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:37 am to WhereisAtlanta
Do you think that given recent events and the lack of respect/security/protection that should be afforded the SCOTUS that they've had enough and are gonna fix America come hell or high water?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:37 am to VoxDawg
So the court may force the Legislative Branch of government to legislate.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:39 am to CDawson
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nd Kagan is correct, most of the acts and powers stolen by the Fed Gov is unconstitutional.
Good. What goes on in Washington DC should minimally affect peoples lives.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:41 am to Eli Goldfinger
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So the court may force the Legislative Branch of government to legislate
Man, there’s going to be a lot less orgies going on.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
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So the court may force the Legislative Branch of government to legislate.
do-nothing Congress would actually have to try to do something
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