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re: Our president with the kill shot! Wow! Twitter deleted it!
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:29 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:29 am to AggieHank86
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If Trump had said the same thing as Bloomberg, my analysis would be no different.
BFS
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:41 am to AggieHank86
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Found it. Nothing racist in the speech. Just pragmatic law enforcement
You are showing your own racism.
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95% of your murders — murderers and murder victims — fit one M.O. You can just take the description, Xerox it and pass it out to all the cops.
You didn't find anything racist about this. Do you think blacks commit 95% of the murders? Your acceptance of that "stat" is really telling. Do you think you can just "xerox" that M.O. and run with it? Your willingness to find that reasonable is very telling.
Liberals reveal themselves for what they are on accident every now and then.
Wow.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:43 am to AggieHank86
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A few of them, sure. Just not the overwhelming percentage that everyone else here believes, though I would say that the number of outright “lies” is rather small.
I guess you just feel like fishing sometimes.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:46 am to Ripley
quote:I have said from the beginning that I doubt that Trump is any more racist than the average New Yorker. Feel free to run a search and confirm. Here is just one example.quote:BFS
If Trump had said the same thing as Bloomberg, my analysis would be no different.
I have also said REPEATEDLY that his lawsuit for refusing to rent to Blacks does not establish racism, only racial discrimination.The two are distinct concepts.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 10:51 am to moneyg
quote:I did not say that it was “reasonable,” and I did not agree with it. In fact, I think I said that it was hyperbole.
You didn't find anything racist about this. Do you think blacks commit 95% of the murders? Your acceptance of that "stat" is really telling. Do you think you can just "xerox" that M.O. and run with it? Your willingness to find that reasonable is very telling.
I suggest that you give some thought to your apparent belief that ANY action based upon race (OR having a racially disparate impact) necessarily constitutes “racism.”. If you do so, you will begin to see the problems inherent in your definition.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:04 am to CAD703X
Bloomberg was right of course.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:05 am to AggieHank86
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I suggest that you give some thought to your apparent belief that ANY action based upon race (OR having a racially disparate impact) necessarily constitutes “racism.”
strawman...and an attempt to shift focus to me rather than to yourself.
You didn't find the 95% comment or the xerox comment racist. And, you found it reasonable to be used to profile blacks.
You've accidentally revealed yourself for who you are (as if a Texas liberal could be anything but a racist)
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
quote:Are you serious? Pragmatic? Just because I I am walking thru a place where crimes are committed does not give you a right to search me.
Just pragmatic law enforcement, though I personally have Constitutional concerns about Stop and Frisk. Sure, plenty of Dems will not like that he said these things.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:11 am to tigerfoot
quote:No, it does not.
Are you serious? Pragmatic? Just because I I am walking thru a place where crimes are committed does not give you a right to search me.
The pragmatic solution is not always a Constitutional solution. That is certainly the case here. Stop and Frisk is VERY problematic under the 4th Amendment. I have said so probably six or seven times in this thread.
But we were not discussing the 4th Amendment. We were discussing the question of racism.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:17 am to moneyg
quote:I will try one more time.
moneyg
several weeks ago, we had a thread in which we discussed a study which determined that Republican voters believe the Democratic Party to be comprised of more than 50% Blacks. The actual figure is less than 20%. This is not indicative of racism on the part of Republicans. It is simply a mistaken perception.
even if we take the (ridiculous) step of assuming that Bloomberg‘s “95%“ language was anything other than hyperbole, a mistaken perception, again, does not constitute racism.
Not every action or perception involving “race” constitutes “racism.”. At this point, either you are capable of grasping this concept ... or you are not.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:18 am to AggieHank86
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The pragmatic solution is not always a Constitutional solution
You think it's pragmatic to float the 95% lie about black people committing murders to justify the action (even though you find it unconstitutional)
That's amazingly racist.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:20 am to AggieHank86
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several weeks ago, we had a thread in which we discussed a study which determined that Republican voters believe the Democratic Party to be comprised of more than 50% Blacks. The actual figure is less than 20%. This is not indicative of racism on the part of Republicans. It is simply a mistaken perception.
It was a false narrative. Republican voters don't believe that on average.
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even if we take the (ridiculous) step of assuming that Bloomberg‘s “95%“ language was anything other than hyperbole, a mistaken perception, again, does not constitute racism.
It's being used to justify profiling of black people. If the statistic is close to 50%, how does profiling make ANY sense unless you are a racist.
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Not every action or perception involving “race” constitutes “racism.”. At this point, either you are capable of grasping this concept ... or you are not.
strawman
You are one racist POS
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:22 am to moneyg
quote:We are all entitled to our opinions
You are one racist POS
My opinion is that you were not particularly bright.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:26 am to AggieHank86
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My opinion is that you were not particularly bright.
Of course. How else could you justify being called out for your obviously racist worldview. You are forced to convince yourself that those who point it out aren't smart.
And, I'd point out that the ability to convince yourself of something that is counter to objective facts is anything but intelligent.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:33 am to thelawnwranglers
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am sure the current America will say it's racist to say what he said...
It is racist
acknowledging the reality of inner city conditions and crime rates shouldn't be considered racist.
when a white person talks in generalities, that's when we get in trouble...that said, is it true or false? If we stop locking up people what happens to that community? Look at the homeless situations out West when they stop arresting people "Because it doesn't work"...
When 75% of black children are born out of wedlock, I mean what kind of results do people expect?
and we hear from the left "oh this great economy isn't helping poor people, so it isn't that great, vote Dem in 2020"
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:34 am to CAD703X
Too late CNN is now covering the story so Trump did it again.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:38 am to MrLSU
6D chess move by Trump.
He is the best I’ve ever seen at pulling the strings of democrats.
He is the best I’ve ever seen at pulling the strings of democrats.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:38 am to AggieHank86
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several weeks ago, we had a thread in which we discussed a study which determined that Republican voters believe the Democratic Party to be comprised of more than 50% Blacks. The actual figure is less than 20%. This is not indicative of racism on the part of Republicans. It is simply a mistaken perception.
statistically, 93% of registered Black voters vote Democrat.
the other 7% vote independent or republican...
what percentage of the black population is unregistered to vote?
if a group of people don't vote, then we can't label them Dem or Republican...
so in this case, 93% of blacks (voters) are "Democrats"
that's not perception... it's just how it is
if Whites voted 93% Republican, this would most certainly be viewed as extremely odd, unfair, unbalanced, extremely biased and probably racists...
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:54 am to Jake88
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You're downvoted reflexively despite being correct. Had a republican said this and another poster posted what you did, it would get a majority upvotes.
Be honest, if Trump would have said this, Hank's opinion on the matter would be a 180.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 12:09 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Having experience working in the media.
A few of them, sure. Just not the overwhelming percentage that everyone else here believes, though I would say that the number of outright “lies” is rather small.
If you believe this you’re as naive and ignorant as a child. Or completely biased because you agree with their agenda.
quote:This hasn’t been the limit since the late 90s.
It is more a matter of shading and story selection.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 12:10 pm
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