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re: Our President is tweeting The Transcript from His Phonecall!

Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:59 am to
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That one-off comment, made at a private event, wasn’t the cornerstone of her campaign. Even though the comment was spot-on, she apologized.
It's nice to know what she feels free to spew behind closed doors.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30549 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:01 pm to
Your boy Obama says hold my beer. Talk about divisive. At least Trump loves his country
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

. He knows it’s a two-horse race,
dems don't have a horse. They have a mule at best.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4895 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:03 pm to
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spew behind closed doors.


Yep, that’s how politics works. Everybody knows that the GOP is full of deplorables, just like the dems’ base is full of deplorables.

Good representatives don’t make it a point to continually bash the opposition, painting them all as deplorables. That’s irresponsible. Trump is irresponsible.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14432 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:04 pm to
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Not a day goes by that Trump doesn’t excoriate dems for something.


Not a day goes by that Dems aren't calling Rs everything from nazis, white nationalists, racists, xenophobes, homophobes, etc. And that started before the election. Sounds pretty damned divisive to me.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:05 pm to
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he’s still complaining about being victimized by the left.


I mean, it's record harassment for the office of the Presidency and even more pronounced than ever bc the media is totally on their side. This is unprecedented and he should continue to complain. It's almost downright treson.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6936 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:06 pm to
This isn't the phone call that caused the problems.

It's from April.

The problem is from July.

Keep up.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Good representatives don’t make it a point to continually bash the opposition, painting them all as deplorables
Hillary called voters deplorables jerk off not the GOP.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4895 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:14 pm to
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the media is totally on their side.


A perfect example of Trump’s divisiveness. He likes the media when it paints him in a favorable light, just ask Hannity.

The second the media writes a critical story, they’re the Enemy of the People.

I think criticism of the free press is taught in “Divisiveness 101”.

And the main reason he has been “presidentially harassed like nobody has ever seen before” is because he continually makes stupid decisions and gets caught in lies.

No deals in Russia - Trump Tower
Never self-dealt from my charity - $2MM fine for self-dealing.
No Quid Pro Quo - “We do it all the time. Get over it.”
I don’t know anything about Stormy - gets caught on tape paying off Stormy.
Etc
Etc
Etc

Valid criticism =\= harassment
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57234 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:20 pm to
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The second the media writes a critical story, they’re the Enemy of the People.
You’re minimizing. They aren’t simply “ciriticizing” (which is an editorial function, not an informational function, btw). They are often reporting poorly sourced, single-sourced hearsay rumors and often outright untrue information.
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
1511 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:25 pm to
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This isn't the phone call that caused the problems.

It's from April.

The problem is from July.

Keep up.


Trump knows what he is doing. Release the call that didn't have issues. Tell his followers see this is the perfect phone call nothing wrong. His followers eat it up and are convinced he is cleared.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4895 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:26 pm to
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They are often reporting poorly sourced, single-sourced hearsay rumors and often outright untrue information.


And the vast majority of the time, they are reporting well-sourced, true, unflattering information that doesn’t fit Trump’s narrative at the time.

Enemy of the People comments don’t come out until the news is damaging. Even when the news is irrefutable, Trump claims it as fake news. Take for example, his “shithole comment”. He said it in front of the WH Press corps in a meeting that wasn’t open to the public. This is a group of around 30 reporters. They ALL heard it and reported the same story. Trump denied it and called the The Enemy.

Trump isn’t qualified to tell me what is and what is not legitimate news. He has zero credibility.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:28 pm to
OMG, he actually congratulated someone who had just won a close political election and he INVITED HIM TO THE WH. This is completely unacceptable Bribery and extortion of the highest degree I have ever seen. Watergate looks like nothing compared to this blight on our republic. I am not sure where he mentioned Biden or investigations in this call, but I am sure it was implied from the pauses between sentences. I also "caught the code." Obviously the statement that his English needed to be improved was meant to show he was ready to trigger a false investigation into perfectly innocent public servants. The shame. The shame.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Its the first phone call the two had. Dems are trying to push the narrative that nothing was said on the last transcript because everything was talked about on this transcript.




Link?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69297 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:32 pm to
True, most stories end up being true, but the trump era has seen a HUGE increase in major stories that had to be retracted or corrected in a major way. This mostly involved the Russia investigation.

There have been websites that have tracked retracted stories and there was a huge surge starting in 2017
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4895 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:38 pm to
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There have been websites that have tracked retracted stories and there was a huge surge starting in 2017


Lots of stories to track, sloppy journalism and fact-checking.

Heated political environment. Profit motive might push the boundaries of good journalistic practice.

POTUS repeatedly calling journalists “The Enemy” might make them more zealous to pursue the damning story.

Political operatives know all of this and are likely to use shoddy journalism to their advantage.

But by and large, the stories, especially those most damning to Trump’s credibility have proven to be true.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73439 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:39 pm to
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But by and large, the stories, especially those most damning to Trump’s credibility have proven to be true.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69297 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 12:44 pm to
The profit motive is a huge issue in media. Huge

And I say that as a radical capitalist

Here’s why

The average person is attracted to drama, division, and negative news stories.

A profit seeking entity wants to get customers, aka they have to market to average person

This is why we have such awful, divisive cable news and these god awful 5 person panels screaming at each other every night. It gets the viewers and the money

The alternative is state-owned media which is way worse

The solution lies in radically changing what type of news the average person is attracted to.
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2613 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 2:30 pm to
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But by and large, the stories, especially those most damning to Trump’s credibility have proven to be true.


Sucking up that progressive media shite like a fat kid with a milkshake.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 3:15 pm to
Listen brain surgeon, no public figure in American history has been so maligned, insulted, blatantly lied about and falsely accused as Donald Trump. And to his credit he just keeps on trucking, doing his job to the best of his abilities and trying to make the US the best it can be in his eyes. As he swore to do. He is not in this for the money, the guy won't take a dime. He is in it because he knew he had something unique to offer. And that something is L-O-G-I-C!

Yes he is a glory hound and is driven to please and get glorified. He works like a Trojan and makes human mistakes but he makes them wide open and with good intentions. And has done a great job in the face of the slanderous media and a dem party who doesn't give a damn about the damage they are doing to our wonderful country. And they are in a full panic because they know he will win again.
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