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re: OSHA Mandate Related - Just got out of a large industry group meeting
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:42 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:42 pm to Bunk Moreland
Resident Poopie pants doesn't know what day of the week it is, much less anything in this ruling or the one he supposedly issued.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:43 pm to Oates Mustache
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general duty clause
I'm sorry but LOL!
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:47 pm to Oates Mustache
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But they believe that the use of the general duty clause
Explain this like I am 5.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:48 pm to Oates Mustache
Yea I’ve been a part of one of these calls and it’s amazing how it’s always this liberal law firm conducting the call to begin with. I’m gonna wait for the constitutionalist viewpoint.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:49 pm to Oates Mustache
None of this will ever work if enough people don’t comply.
Let’s just see how many weak people we have in this country.
Let’s just see how many weak people we have in this country.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:49 pm to Oates Mustache
Have you read the arguments that swayed the 5th circuit? There is no way that OSHA has medical jurisdiction. This is outside of workplace safety, clearly. This isn't workplace health in areas like immunizations. Occupational health in OSHAs wheelhouse would be like physical, mental and social wellbeing correct? The broad range of THAT health would be having to have break rooms away from the workplace, periodic breaks, heat stroke awareness, physical therapy, the availability of counseling after traumatic event. That sort of health.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:52 pm to jwill37
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it’s always this liberal law firm conducting the call to begin with.
Were you in this one?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:54 pm to DarthRebel
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Explain this like I am 5.
The gist of it is that OSHA requires that companies provide a safe working environment for their employees. Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment. This is what they're banking on.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:54 pm to Herooftheday
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Have you read the arguments that swayed the 5th circuit? There is no way that OSHA has medical jurisdiction. This is outside of workplace safety, clearly. This isn't workplace health in areas like immunizations. Occupational health in OSHAs wheelhouse would be like physical, mental and social wellbeing correct? The broad range of THAT health would be having to have break rooms away from the workplace, periodic breaks, heat stroke awareness, physical therapy, the availability of counseling after traumatic event. That sort of health.
I kind of agree after reading what the heck General Duty Clause is.
If applied to Covid, it is way to broad. They would have standing to attack anything else they wanted essentially. Drinking, smoking, unhealthy foods, etc.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:55 pm to Oates Mustache
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Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment
There would need to be proof of this though correct?
More than just feelings??
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:55 pm to DarthRebel
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They would have standing to attack anything else they wanted essentially. Drinking, smoking, unhealthy foods, etc.
Your eyes just opened up to the end game if it stands.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:55 pm to Oates Mustache
If this comes down to the General Doody Cause, I’m afraid Biden may have the upper hand.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:56 pm to Oates Mustache
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Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment. This is what they're banking on.
Not that dangerous if it took them 2 years. 6 months after FDA approval. 2 months after booster approval. And then delay implementation until after the holidays.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:57 pm to Oates Mustache
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The gist of it is that OSHA requires that companies provide a safe working environment for their employees. Unvaccinated employees create a dangerous work environment. This is what they're banking on.
What about the ever increasing amount of vaccinated people with breakthrough cases of Covid19….these vaccinated people with Covid19 are believed to be more of a source of Covid19 spread than the unvaccinated. Did anyone ask the OSHA Feds that question?
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:59 pm to DarthRebel
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Drinking, smoking, unhealthy foods, etc
Exactly. Every year there's a new study on whether coffee is healthy or not. So just ban coffee and energy drinks at work because studies.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:14 pm to Oates Mustache
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So they actually mentioned this too. It basically said that the 5th circuit stay was limited to that geographical region covered by the 5th circuit. Isn't it amazing how that works now?
No nationwide stays anymore
They sure didn't make that argument from Jan. 2017 to Jan. 2021.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:18 pm to Oates Mustache
The lawyers are falsely assuming
A. the vaccine is effectice
B. Its not dangerous in and of itself
A. the vaccine is effectice
B. Its not dangerous in and of itself
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:28 pm to Oates Mustache
Your company needs better lawyers
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:30 pm to udtiger
It's not my company. It's an organization that represents large industry companies and provides guidance.
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