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re: Op Ed - Fiscally conservative Republicans told Trump to go pound sand

Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:58 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:58 am to
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"Electing Trump in grand fashion" doesn't mean you have to agree with whatever he says, whenever he says it, just because he says it.

Trump has no underlying consistency
Weird melt. Very weird.
Why was Chuck Schumer so pleased with the deal that Chip Roy and his company of idiots just handed him?
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5799 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:59 am to
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Chip and Tim have been in congress since 2019.


They’ve had their chance to lead and it didnt produce any results.


When was the first time, since 2019, the GOP has held the House, Senate, and Executive branch.

This coming year, 2025, is probably their first opportunity to lead.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:01 am to
You all always make excuses for these lames

Yet blame everything wrong on Orange
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14112 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:03 am to
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Trump has no underlying consistency because he has no underlying principles


Consistency can be used against you. How much spending cuts has Chip Roy and Tim Burchett’s “consistency” generated? What about their principles?

The answer is none.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:04 am to
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14112 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:05 am to
They didnt lead the GOP to those majorities, do you know who did lead them there?

I’ll give you 3 guesses.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135804 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:06 am to
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When was the first time, since 2019, the GOP has held the House, Senate, and Executive branch.

This coming year, 2025, is probably their first opportunity to lead.
Well they just got off to one helluva an ignominious start.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:06 am to
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Not only do they do so, they get angry at anyone who doesn't. As though people should just do whatever the guy says regardless of whether it makes any sense or not or is consistent or anything.


Yeah, I have far less issue with Trump and his comments than I do the influencers and their minions here who interpret everything.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135804 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:08 am to
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Rich, coming from you.

Trump was elected last time to build a wall. He tried. The GOP majority congress stymied him, even though they claimed they supported the issue. Trump was elected last time to reform or remove Obamacare. The GOP majority congress again got in the way, despite having claimed throughout Obama's administration that this was a major issue for them. Trump reformed trade policies the GOP helped put in place, even though they ran their mouth about trade. Trump initiated an aggressive trade policy against China which the GOP is fond of calling a threat, until you use the word "tariff".

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5799 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:09 am to
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They didnt lead the GOP to those majorities, do you know who did lead them there?



Who fricking cares. If McCain or Romney would have won the Freedom Caucus would have been trying like hell to pull them both to the right. Just like they want to pull Trump to the right.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:11 am to
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Trump was elected last time to build a wall. He tried. The GOP majority congress stymied him, even though they claimed they supported the issue. Trump was elected last time to reform or remove Obamacare. The GOP majority congress again got in the way, despite having claimed throughout Obama's administration that this was a major issue for them. Trump reformed trade policies the GOP helped put in place, even though they ran their mouth about trade. Trump initiated an aggressive trade policy against China which the GOP is fond of calling a threat, until you use the word "tariff".


The word youre looking for is "Leadership" which is something Trump severely lacks.

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5799 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:11 am to
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Well they just got off to one helluva an ignominious start.


What would it have taken to get their vote? Do you know?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:12 am to
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Who fricking cares. If McCain or Romney would have won the Freedom Caucus would have been trying like hell to pull them both to the right. Just like they want to pull Trump to the right.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11662 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:14 am to
Yes, they told him to pound sand, then he pounded them and passed the bill anyway. Only way out of this is bankruptcy or to grow out of it at this point.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14112 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:18 am to

quote:

If McCain or Romney would have won the Freedom Caucus would have been trying like hell to pull them both to the right.


quote:

Who fricking cares



I care about results, not hypotheticals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:19 am to
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We didn't elect congressmen to block his agenda.

Their constituents elected them to try to attack our spending problem, though.

They are beholden to their constituents, not a Presidential vote.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5799 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:19 am to
quote:

I care about results, not hypotheticals.


Looks like you care about the status quo.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6619 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:19 am to
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The word youre looking for is "Leadership" which is something Trump severely lacks.



The word you're missing is "globalism" which is also something Trump lacks... and why he was elected.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94205 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:21 am to
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Their constituents elected them to try to attack our spending problem, though.


So they keep electing ppl that do the exact opposite of what they elected them to do?

There are zero fiscally conservative Rs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:21 am to
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Trump has no underlying consistency because he has no underlying principles. When the article says he is for a policy in one context and against it in another, it's 100% correct.

That's why, when asked to give specific policy preferences, it's been a big collective black hole since 2016.

The same as defining the terms they love to throw around so much.

That malleability is crucial for a political movement with no principles that will excuse any hypocrisy or failure as some part of a larger esoteric strategery.
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