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re: Only in America, could a boy to pick which rest room to enter, or both
Posted on 4/26/14 at 6:59 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 4/26/14 at 6:59 pm to GRTiger
We also likely arent talking about elementary school kids here. I would imagine for the most part, this would be a late middle school and high school situation.
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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We also likely arent talking about elementary school kids here. I would imagine for the most part, this would be a late middle school and high school situation.
Regardless, the entire issue revolves around the growing problem of people refusing to call a spade, a spade.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:13 pm to novabill
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Which one of these do you disagree with?
I can make a list like this about any country. He also offers no dam solution. So someone who cries alot
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:15 pm to Antonio Moss
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Regardless, the entire issue revolves around the growing problem of people refusing to call a spade, a spade.
Newsflash: People are different. That's ok. It's not a "growing problem" except to people who can't accept things they don't understand.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 7:22 pm to Antonio Moss
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Regardless, the entire issue revolves around the growing problem of people refusing to call a spade, a spade.
Gender identity disorder is listed in the DSM-V as a psychological condition and is understood to likely be caused by abnormal levels of sex hormones during fetal development.
The medical establishment readily acknowledges that men who believe they should be women, and vice verse, have a largely untreatable psychological disorder. They call a spade a spade, as you say. We just realize that as of now, we cant "fix" or change them except to allow them to become what they believe they are.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:02 pm to pecxs
quote:What???
Only in America, could a boy to pick which rest room to enter, or both
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:18 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The medical establishment readily acknowledges that men who believe they should be women, and vice verse, have a largely untreatable psychological disorder
in that case, give the kid a sex change if you are so convinced.
Let the people with penises (males) go in the MENS room, and the people with vaginas (females) go in the WOMENS room.
why should other people's children suffer unnecessary social discomfort and anxiety because of a few insane kids? I mean, that's the position you're taking right? They have a legitimate psychological disorder. Perhaps they should be in a mental hospital instead of a school with normal healthy kids.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:24 pm to CptRusty
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why should other people's children suffer unnecessary social discomfort and anxiety because of a few insane kids? I mean, that's the position you're taking right? They have a legitimate psychological disorder. Perhaps they should be in a mental hospital instead of a school with normal healthy kids.
Again, we are practically talking about late middle school and high school. These aren't 10 year olds.
And nobody used the word "insane". I hope you don't really think we should lock up every person with any type of mental issue.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Again, we are practically talking about late middle school and high school. These aren't 10 year olds.
I really don't see what their age has to do with anything. Why do the normal healthy kids need to suffer, through an act of willful concession, for the ones with mental disorders?
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And nobody used the word "insane"
in·san·i·ty noun \in-'sa-n?-te\
: severe mental illness : the condition of being insane
...I would think that a person with a disorder so acute that they believe themselves to inhabit a body of the wrong sex, would qualify as having a "severe mental illness", if indeed such a condition is recognized as such, as has been claimed in this thread.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:59 pm to GRTiger
Boom
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:59 pm to pecxs
I opened this thinking I was going to find a really bad list. It's actually well thought out though.
Could you please fix the wording in the title?
Could you please fix the wording in the title?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:00 pm to CptRusty
The normal healthy kids suffer? If the transgender student going to the bathroom, does their business and leaves, how are the healthy kids suffering?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I would imagine it would cause mental anguish for the girls who have been told to use the girls room all their lives to suddenly have to share a girls room with a boy. I hope someone files a lawsuit about this soon.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
are you really so socially retarded that you don't understand how it would make girls uncomfortable to have a guy in the stall next to them while they use the restroom? Hell, I don't even like to shite when there's another guy in the bathroom.
stop sidestepping the question. if your position is really so rock solid, tell me why the insane kids' rights are more important than the rest of the children?
stop sidestepping the question. if your position is really so rock solid, tell me why the insane kids' rights are more important than the rest of the children?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:12 pm to CptRusty
I dont think a transgender student's rights are more important than someone who is not transgender.
A transgender student likely isn't some butch guy choosing the girls restroom to get with them.
Just like you said, you don't feel comfortable taking a shite with someone else in the restroom. Do you really think a transgender student is going to permanently pick the restroom that they don't really identify with. Transgender people typically carry themselves as more manly or more feminine. They would likely choose the restroom that fits their profile.
Again, y'all are making a huge fuss over nothing. People are in the bathroom for a couple minutes max. If that is the "harm" someone is feeling then that's a pretty weak argument.
What if the "harm" was a white student feeling uncomfortable when a black student walked in the restroom with them? A sense of feeling uncomfortable is that persons problem if the other party is not physically doing anything to you or even speaking to you.
A transgender student likely isn't some butch guy choosing the girls restroom to get with them.
Just like you said, you don't feel comfortable taking a shite with someone else in the restroom. Do you really think a transgender student is going to permanently pick the restroom that they don't really identify with. Transgender people typically carry themselves as more manly or more feminine. They would likely choose the restroom that fits their profile.
Again, y'all are making a huge fuss over nothing. People are in the bathroom for a couple minutes max. If that is the "harm" someone is feeling then that's a pretty weak argument.
What if the "harm" was a white student feeling uncomfortable when a black student walked in the restroom with them? A sense of feeling uncomfortable is that persons problem if the other party is not physically doing anything to you or even speaking to you.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:18 pm to Mickey Goldmill
You realize your argument works just as well against the policy, right? You are downplaying the feelings of the normal kids because "it's no big deal" but apparently it's a big enough deal to even address it with a policy. Who gives a shite about the feelings of the transgender kids? They are only in the restroom for a few minutes tips, right?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I dont think a transgender student's rights are more important than someone who is not transgender.
good, then you agree we shouldn't allow boys in the girls room.
Absolute worst case scenario, there should be a third bathroom.
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A transgender student likely isn't some butch guy choosing the girls restroom to get with them.
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Do you really think a transgender student is going to permanently pick the restroom that they don't really identify with. Transgender people typically carry themselves as more manly or more feminine. They would likely choose the restroom that fits their profile.
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What if the "harm" was a white student feeling uncomfortable when a black student walked in the restroom with them?
you have a penchant for irrelevant hypotheticals.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:25 pm to GRTiger
If bathrooms are ok, what about locker rooms?
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:42 pm to GRTiger
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Why not say this about the transgender kids' psychological well being and not make a ridiculous new policy? Seems easier.
Get that common sense bull shite out of here! This is the poli board for Christ sake.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:47 pm to wickowick
Locker rooms? Should gay athletes share a locker room with straight ones? Same concept, right?
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 9:48 pm
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