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One graph which makes it clear what we must do to reduce gun homicides..
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:37 pm
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:40 pm to Dawgfanman
Democrats presidents.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:42 pm to Dawgfanman
Do you have the source for whatever study made that graph?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:44 pm to SundayFunday
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Do you have the source for whatever study made that graph?
It's not a study. Do you doubt the info? It's well known that gun ownership is way up and that gun homicides/violent crime is way down since the 90s..
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:46 pm to SundayFunday
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:47 pm to Dawgfanman
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It's not a study. Do you doubt the info? It's well known that gun ownership is way up and that gun homicides/violent crime is way down since the 90s..
I dont put a grain of salt in any random chart that doesnt have a source on it. Regardless of my personal feelings on the subject.
Anyone with microsoft paint can make a chart showing correlation between 2 things.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:48 pm to jamboybarry
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jamboybarry
Thank you
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:48 pm to SundayFunday
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I dont put a grain of salt in any random chart that doesnt have a source on it.
The chart does list the sources at the bottom.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:49 pm to SundayFunday
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I dont put a grain of salt in any random chart that doesnt have a source on it. Regardless of my personal feelings on the subject.
Anyone with microsoft paint can make a chart showing correlation between 2 things.
The chart has the source on it....you just want to throw shade..
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:49 pm to C
It's could be a little misleading if you consider something like 3% of owners own half of all guns (not exact - IIRC).
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:50 pm to texridder
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It's could be a little misleading if you consider something like 3% of owners own half of all guns (not exact - IIRC).
I was part of the 3%, until I lost most of my firearms in an unfortunate boating accident.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:51 pm to texridder
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It's could be a little misleading if you consider something like 3% of owners own half of all guns (not exact - IIRC).
If someone is trying to argue, as I jokingly implied, that "more guns = less violence" then that might be true..but it kills the "more guns = more deaths" trope
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:52 pm to Dawgfanman
Taken to its logical end, putting a gun in the hand of every potential victim means that only the most foolish people with a death wish would ever think to threaten violence against someone else. Why shouldn’t we strive to encourage and maximize responsible gun ownership and minimize “gun free zones”?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:53 pm to Dawgfanman
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it kills the "more guns = more deaths" trope
BamaATL would beg to differ! He/She has peer reviewed articles that claim more guns = more gun deaths.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:57 pm to HempHead
17 guns put you in the top 1%
Almost there
Almost there
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:58 pm to Dawgfanman
John Lott is the top source on the subject. Gun ownership reduces gun crime at both city and state levels. Conversely, gun control laws increase gun crime.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 2:58 pm to civiltiger07
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more guns = more gun deaths.
well, this is the problem I have with basic graphs like in the OP, because you can argue this as well in chart form
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:00 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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17 guns put you in the top 1%
Almost there
I know that's a lot (I may or may not be close), but damn, that makes me think of some outliers. I know an older man in the boonies who has an underground walk-in safe with AT LEAST 200, and probably millions of rounds of ammunition. He's my baw when the shite goes down.
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:01 pm to Salmon
Mother Jones is a communist publication. You do realize that don't you?
Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:01 pm to Salmon
Well, one chart lists “gun homicides” and the other “gun deaths”. Maybe Mother Jones can try not lumping in suicides to get to the point we’re trying to discuss?
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