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re: Once again the powers try to change the rules in midsteam. More SG politics,

Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41711 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:20 pm to
Look what's going on sir, people who ordinarily not giving a damn are proposing moratoriums, expanding the electorate, and doing whatever they can to stop SG.

It's all there in the public record , what can I tell you ? It's not a coincidence that all this is going on now.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1441 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:21 pm to
You have been outed in this thread as a completely mindless lackey and possibly the biggest idiot on this site, which is quite a feat. At least Russian, although in an unabashedly abrasive manner, tries (and 'tries' is the key word) to use numbers or text from legal documents in his arguments. You are just a fricking dipshit.

Every character you type in these threads only serves to undermine your cause.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133516 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:21 pm to
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Why would you expect the ISD boundaries to be equivalent to the incorporation boundaries?

HOL-LEE-frick!
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:21 pm to
Because it determines fairness. Famines to whom? Aren't we talking about the people who have been living in the southeast corner of EBR? They are upset over poor representation, poor schools, and apparently their tax dollars being spent in the city.

Well if this is who we are talking about, then we should stop including the mall in these figures of what the city is "taking" from them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41711 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:22 pm to
Budget is very fair. It's the only one we have.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

You have been outed in this thread as a completely mindless lackey and possibly the biggest idiot on this site, which is quite a feat. At least Russian, although in an unabashedly abrasive manner, tries (and 'tries' is the key word) to use numbers or text from legal documents in his arguments. You are just a fricking dipshit. Every character you type in these threads only serves to undermine your cause.


Hahaha do you have anything of substance to debate with me or not? And for the record, I never said I supported any of the proposed bills passing through the legislature.
Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8041 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Your link is about a different bill, not the one in this thread


OK right it only applies to one bill...reread the statement
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1441 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:28 pm to
I don't need to debate you. It's quite obvious to everyone in this thread you are a grade A moron
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:29 pm to
Lol ok bud. Whatever you say. Thanks for your "input" I guess.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133516 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:29 pm to
Okay, I re-read it. Now what?

This thread is about a bill that is not mentioned in the link you gave.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133516 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:32 pm to
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I don't need to debate you. It's quite obvious to everyone in this thread you are a grade A moron

He's been quite reasonable in his comments. You are the one who popped into the thread and only made personal attacks. Do you have anything of substance to add? A better question is do you know anything of substance?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61912 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:34 pm to
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Because it determines fairness. Famines to whom? Aren't we talking about the people who have been living in the southeast corner of EBR? They are upset over poor representation, poor schools, and apparently their tax dollars being spent in the city.

Well if this is who we are talking about, then we should stop including the mall in these figures of what the city is "taking" from them.



There are practical issues with incorporation. I don't know why you think that is a gotcha.

I'm sure the ISD boundaries were structured in such a way for a reason. And, I'm sure it was done without consideration for the need to incorporation. Once incorporation became a requirement, it doesn't surprise me that those lines changed.

I don't think anyone is pretending that it is a foregone conclusion that the mall is going to become a part of St. George. The mall is going to have to decide if it wants to hitch itself to St. George, or Baton Rouge.

If the mall believes that St. George is primed to thrive, have high property values, improving demographics surrounding it, it would make sense for the mall to want to be the centerpiece of this.

The mall should also consider the risk of new development in St. George competing for retail business if it chooses to incorporate in Baton Rouge. I don't know how real a threat that is, but we've all seen malls die. I do think that St. George residents are going to want to invest in St. George if the incorporation happens. I would assume there would be a large marketing effort promoting that.

I don't pretend to know what is going to happen.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:36 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41711 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:36 pm to
QuoteI don't pretend to know what is going to happen.Quote

Good, we already have one perdon doing that and that's plenty.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:38 pm to
I didn't mean it as a gotcha and I fully understand the practical financial reasons they want the mall. But the point is, the mall was never a dog in this fight. They never fought for the ISD. They didn't say the parish budget was unfair. The areas saying the budget is unfair do not include the mall so it's not right to include the revenue they produce in the fairness argument.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133516 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:40 pm to
You've got over 5,000 posts. Don't you think it's time for you to learn how to use the quote function? It's painful trying to follow your meaning when you make up your own quote method.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1441 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:41 pm to
His post about BR never having a reason previously to annex the areas Heck recently mentioned is all the board needed to see. You at least base your argument on what (you perceive) to be facts or mistruths perpetuated by others. This clown just blindly defends whatever comes down the pipe that appears to be opposition to stg. He, if anyone, brings nothing of value to the table.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61912 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

I didn't mean it as a gotcha and I fully understand the practical financial reasons they want the mall. But the point is, the mall was never a dog in this fight.


Why would the mall be considered with respect to forming an ISD?

quote:

They never fought for the ISD.


Are you questioning the desire for an ISD? Geez.

quote:

They didn't say the parish budget was unfair. The areas saying the budget is unfair do not include the mall so it's not right to include the revenue they produce in the fairness argument.



That makes no sense. Maybe I just don't understand what you are trying to say.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

His post about BR never having a reason previously to annex the areas Heck recently mentioned is all the board needed to see. You at least base your argument on what (you perceive) to be facts or mistruths perpetuated by others. This clown just blindly defends whatever comes down the pipe that appears to be opposition to stg. He, if anyone, brings nothing of value to the table.


Not true at all. I've said countless times that I support an ISD. I don't agree with what the legislature is doing to impose such harsh limitations of their right to incorporate.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41711 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:46 pm to
The mall is where it is . They can't move it.

It is outside the BR city limits and thus the mall is no different than the McDonalds on Siegen, the new Walmart on Burbank or Hi Nabor on Jones Creek who are all outside of the city and inside the SG Fire District.

Once SG leaders decided the prudent move was to include all of the SGFD and the East Side FD in the new city the powers that be at city hall became alarmed. They counted on revenues from all these entities; yet they didn't have to supply them with police or fire services. It was a winning situation for them and why they aren't going to let SG succeed.

SG isn't stealing the mall, it is merely including the mall and surrounding properties since they are all in SG.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

That makes no sense. Maybe I just don't understand what you are trying to say.


The people living in the southeast area that started this drive for an ISD are claiming the budget is unfair because their money goes towards the city. 'Their money' does not include the mall and shouldn't be included in their figures.
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