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Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:57 pm
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:57 pm
Middle East is a refined product exporter. ME also sends crude to China. In response to Middle East supply issues China cut refinery run rates to just supply domestic needs and cut exports way back. Russia is also losing export capacity as Ukraine continues to hit Russian refineries causing Russia to be at 80% and dropping refinery availability.

The Iran shite show combined with Russian degradation has limited worldwide refinery (not crude oil!) output. Until summer travel season is over it will be a tight gasoline market and REALLY tight diesel market.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
10157 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:29 pm to
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Wonder if that's why POTUS recently threatened "the retailers" keeping gas prices high???

CJNG and other Mexico-based transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) smuggling fuel from the United States into Mexico in schemes involving Mexican tax evasion."

Today's action highlights the extent to which Mexico's cartels are expanding beyond traditional drug trafficking to generate revenue for their criminal organizations, which continue to traffic deadly drugs that kill Americans," said Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16258 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:30 pm to
Refineries typically make almost no money on gasoline. They do make money on diesel
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8164 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:39 pm to
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Refineries typically make almost no money on gasoline. They do make money on diesel


Exactly. It’s been painful the 2.5 years on gasoline prior to Iran issue. Making some $ on it now though.

Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
4005 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Middle East is a refined product exporter. ME also sends crude to China. In response to Middle East supply issues China cut refinery run rates to just supply domestic needs and cut exports way back. Russia is also losing export capacity as Ukraine continues to hit Russian refineries causing Russia to be at 80% and dropping refinery availability.

The Iran shite show combined with Russian degradation has limited worldwide refinery (not crude oil!) output. Until summer travel season is over it will be a tight gasoline market and REALLY tight diesel market.


And were you concerned enough to voice your frustration with even higher fuel prices during the last admin? TDS is real, especially attempted vindictive TDS.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7411 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:58 pm to
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Refineries typically make almost no money on gasoline
Refineries make between 10 and 15 cents per gallon. America buys $10 million gallon per day, so they make a nice profit.

Retailers earn near $25 Billion per year in profits, plus they have more control of pricing. My neighbor owned a BP store and said he made good money on gasoline.
Posted by Rougarou12
Marrero
Member since Mar 2023
263 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:38 pm to
This largely depends on the refinery and what their goal is in addition to what type of crude they crack. The margins don't change much as oil moves. A barrel of crude in the front end 42 gal nets 47 gal of sellable material. Also offspec blend stock is regularly added to gasoline when things get tight and when a Shell or Exxon tells you a spec range and it doesn't come out within that range they will no longer be calling your lab for analysis.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24167 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:38 pm to
Inflation-Adjusted Comparison

When comparing the two periods in real terms (adjusted for inflation to 2026 dollars):

06/30/22: - $5.55 per gallon



06/30/26: - $4.30 per gallon

Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
31535 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:55 pm to

Senator Suzette Valladares
@SenValladares

Highest cost of living in the nation. Highest gas prices in the nation.

And tomorrow, Sacramento hits Californians with ANOTHER automatic gas tax increase.

My colleagues and I asked the Governor and Democratic leadership to suspend it. They refused.

Just in time for your Fourth of July travel, get ready to pay even more at the pump

Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5800 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:16 pm to
The price of a gallon of gasoline in my hometown has punched through
$ 3/gallon and now stands at $ 2.98/gallon.

President Trump is right about.......everything



Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16258 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Refineries make between 10 and 15 cents per gallon. America buys $10 million gallon per day, so they make a nice profit.


Even Placid barely makes a profit some years and loses money other years and it's a refinery geared to gasoline.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16258 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

Wonder if that's why POTUS recently threatened "the retailers" keeping gas prices high???

CJNG and other Mexico-based transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) smuggling fuel from the United States into Mexico in schemes involving Mexican tax evasion.


I tried to do some transshipment via Port of Brownsville. It's pretty much Mexican regs (lack of) followed there. I asked friend in Corpus about this He said the entire Rio Grande Valley is that way
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