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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.

Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:51 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:51 am to
SFP is the worst sort of idiot, the kind that’s convinced himself he’s brilliant and stupid enough to believe it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:51 am to
And you show you don't know what "pivot" means
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:07 am to
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Hell, what does this have to do with voting for him?
If Trump loses, Banana Republic “justice” prevails. As a lawyer the unabashed weaponization of law should piss you off.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:12 am to
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If Trump loses, Banana Republic “justice” prevails.

His winning or losing has no effect on the system.

Only actual laws implemented to regulate "lawfare" can do that. I've been waiting over a year for suggestions on these proposed laws with nothing of substance given.

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As a lawyer the unabashed weaponization of law should piss you off.

The only way to solve it is to strip the government (at all levels) of power (by rescinding criminal laws, making them less punitive, strengthening our rights, etc.), at least in the criminal arena. That is not a favored approach on Trumpland, at least when out-groups are concerned (which means a universal solution is not on the table).

There isn't anything you can really do in the civil arena, generally. The EJC case is an outlier due to SOL manipulation, but things like the Rudy lawsuits are above board.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56808 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:49 am to
If it took that debate for these people to realize Biden had a problem the. They are all idiots.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28185 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 8:53 am to
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If it took that debate for these people to realize Biden had a problem the. They are all idiots.


It didn't take that debate for them to realize it, it took that debate to force them to admit it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:15 am to
I was already posting about DEM strategy in replacing Biden before the debate, so that argument does not apply to me.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28185 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:18 am to
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I was already posting about DEM strategy in replacing Biden before the debate, so that argument does not apply to me.


It doesn't apply to you but you felt the need to pad your post count? Ok.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:25 am to
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It doesn't apply to you but you felt the need to pad your post count? Ok.

The thread was literally started on the incorrect conflation
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:29 am to
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His winning or losing has no effect on the system.

That is 100% false my friend. If Berian lawfare targeting political opposition is seen as a mechanism for victory it will be repeated. If it is seen as an abject PR disaster, as hopefully will be the case, odds are neither side will try it again.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5132 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:33 am to
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It didn't take that debate for them to realize it, it took that debate to force them to admit it.


Very true. Like the media, they believed people were actually believing the spin and lies.

It was actually funny to see Biden Tweet while he was debating. As if people didn't already know he was too far gone to actually be doing his own social media like Trump can.

This just furthers the fact that this clown didn't get 81 million actual oxygen breathing legal voters in 2020. So many people have awaken to what happened. The Fauci files even prove just how far they had to twist COVID to last and cover the steal.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:35 am to
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The only way to solve it is to strip the government (at all levels) of power (by rescinding criminal laws, making them less punitive, strengthening our rights, etc.), at least in the criminal arena.
Negative!
Lesser punishments applied unevenly based on politics, race, religion, gender, etc. is no solution at all. The only way to solve it is to actually enforce the equal protection clause.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22103 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:38 am to
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SFP
really leans into the 'slow'
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:39 am to
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The only way to solve it is to actually enforce the equal protection clause.


So even more big government oversight.

Sweet.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:42 am to
Trump immune, FYI
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:45 am to
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The only way to solve it is to actually enforce the equal protection clause.


ay, comrade

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:45 am to
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Trump immune, FYI

Only for official acts. Remanded to district court to determine if his acts were official acts.

Literally as I (among others) predicted.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47624 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:48 am to
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Reeeeee re re (reeee reeee) reeeeee.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:49 am to
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ay, comrade
If truth there is established, you're damn right equal protection should be granted. Is it your contention that individuals who commit crimes are in fact prosecuted unevenly based on race?
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 9:50 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 9:52 am to
From yesterday

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Many government positions have civil and/or criminal immunity for official acts.

That means they can't be sued or prosecuted for official acts while in office.

There isn't a specific case giving the President criminal immunity for official acts. It's very likely this week there will be a case giving the President criminal immunity. We have assumed this existed for some time (before I was born), but this should solidify it in law.

The best example is probably Obama droning the citizen without due process. Since that was an official act as CIC, he can't be prosecuted for murder.


LINK

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what are the highly educated, intellectual people expecting tomorrow on Presidential immunity?


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Limited immunity for official acts

Remand to the trial court for determination if his conduct was an official act
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