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re: On 6/20 SFP offered this jewel of wisdom as to why certain people were voting for Biden.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:33 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:33 pm to 4cubbies
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If this is what you believe, there isn’t a single capitalist economic system in the world and certainly not in the USA.
You're so close to getting it...
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:35 pm to 4cubbies
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So you made a baseless assumption
You literally did it after that post ITT
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
I said that employees are exploited if their employer turns a profit? Can you link that post?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:41 pm to 4cubbies
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I said that employees are exploited if their employer turns a profit?
Not responsive to the post
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:49 pm to BCreed1
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WTH? What? I can not take you seriously anymore. You are reaching Slowmo levels.
Is this supposed to be meaningful, jj? You're an idiot. Nobody's concerned about what you think of them.
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Zuck is already rich. So are many other CEOs. You are being naive.
Says that guy that doesn't think big business is woke as long as it pays well.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
I asked how you decided that I believe what you accused me of believing and you said because I said something totally different in this thread. And now you’re patting yourself on your back for this amazing gotcha moment.
You must be having a bad day. You’re not usually blatantly dishonest.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Tariffs are leftism?
What do you call government intervention in markets to increase taxation to redistribute money to a selected class of people?
Just like a little socialist trying to discredit the founding fathers. ALL were leftists right Slo.
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Market interference? Check
Not a single time in our history has there not been tariffs. CHECK!
Come on. Tell us when the USA was not a socialist/Leftist nation. What century did that occur?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So if Democrats pass a tax that makes ammunition cost a thousand times what it does today, that is free market Trump-esque economics?
Horrible comparison. That's a complete item.. not an item from another nation.
Placing a tariff on ammo from the UK is not the same as placing a tax on ammo made everywhere.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:06 pm to BCreed1
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Horrible comparison. That's a complete item.. not an item from another nation.
The market is the market.
Domestic...international...it doesn't matter.
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Placing a tariff on ammo from the UK is not the same as placing a tax on ammo made everywhere.
The intervention in the market is the same.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:07 pm to BCreed1
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Just like a little socialist trying to discredit the founding fathers. ALL were leftists right Slo.
You've been ignoring some simple requests for hours...care to try again?
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I'm still waiting on what was "placed in" the constitution, as you posted.
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Give me a specific definition of Leftism
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The market is the market.
Domestic...international...it doesn't matter.
It does matter. You equated a tariff on A product from ANOTHER nation to the Gov putting a tax on that same product from all nations including this nation.
Nowhere near the same.
But you have already said it, over and over in this thread. There has never been in time per your own definition that the USA was not a leftist/socialist nation.
Period... full stop.
That is your opinion of the the USA and that goes all the way back to the founding fathers. And that's ok. You can have your opinion.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Just like a little socialist trying to discredit the founding fathers. ALL were leftists right Slo.
You've been ignoring some simple requests for hours...care to try again?
I have ignored nothing. I have not allowed you to change the topic that we are talking about. Stay on topic.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:14 pm to BCreed1
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It does matter. You equated a tariff on A product from ANOTHER nation to the Gov putting a tax on that same product from all nations including this nation.
Because the market is the market.
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Nowhere near the same.
But you have already said it, over and over in this thread.
Because it's the truth, and you've offered no rebuttal. Only your conclusions without any support.
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That is your opinion of the the USA and that goes all the way back to the founding fathers.
And if you were honest, I would love to compare your definition of Leftism in the same way...but you've avoided it.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:15 pm to BCreed1
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I have not allowed you to change the topic that we are talking about. Stay on topic.
This is on topic.
You made claims about something being in the Constitution. I asked for a cite. YOU said it, not me.
Are you admitting you were wrong?
And I'm asking for your definition of Leftism to apply to your own argument. But you refuse.
Both are directly responsive to what you've said.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
You suck so bad even 4chubbies hates your guts. That’s a so good I never knew.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:41 pm to Errerrerrwere
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You suck so bad even 4chubbies hates your guts.
Welcome to 2013
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:44 pm to Errerrerrwere
15+ hours, Jake. Holy fricking moly, dude. This can’t be the best way you could’ve spent your time today.
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How do you define Leftist economics? Specifically as a policy. Not in relation to any other country or policy.
Still waiting
Leftist economics policy includes SSI, Medicare, foreign aid, deficit spending, Dept of Educ, earmarks, cost of living adjustments, etc
Conservative economics died forever with Hoover. And is forever dead. The Republicans went from the dominant party to the wasteland in the '32 elections, and sat there for 60+ years. FDR made a socialist nation. We have moved the needled back somewhat, but your anti-Trump logic on economics is pie in the sky. Those days are long gone
And the old milk toast Republican party knows that, and really doesnt want to win elections. They want to be the minority party because they really cannot be economically conservative. Its devastating at election time
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:53 pm to RobbBobb
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Leftist economics policy includes SSI, Medicare, foreign aid, deficit spending, Dept of Educ, earmarks
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Not in relation to any other country or policy.
You just defined it specifically in relation to policies.
Try again.
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And the old milk toast Republican party knows that, and really doesnt want to win elections.
What is "That" in the above quote? What do milquetoast Republicans know?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What is "That" in the above quote? What do milquetoast Republicans know?
uhhhh, that they cannot govern using conservative economics, because its devastating at election time. It gets exhausting repeating the points made to you, btw
So you singling out Trump because hes not an economic conservative is simply a red herring. Because there are none of them in current politics. They simply dont get re-elected
Trump spending vs GDP (which is a pretty damn big factor) isnt even in the top 5 since 1900
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