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re: Olbermann demands that Jimmy Dore be banned from all social media

Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Let’s hear how you think that is relevant in any way to this thread


The fact that you’re proposing we silence the person that revealed the mass US surveillance state that we’re living in. You’re a fricking moron, and don’t vote next time. You’re one of those uniquely uninformed and stupid voters that should have their right to vote stripped away, but I won’t do that in the name of our constitution.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:58 pm to
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The fact that you’re proposing we silence the person that revealed the mass US surveillance state that we’re living in.


I said nothing about silencing people. I said anyone that’s educated wouldn’t give a shite or pay attention to what any political commentator has to say.

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You’re a fricking moron, and don’t vote next time.


I’d bet every dollar in my wallet that you and I have voted identically in every Presidential and Congressional election as long as we were both over 18


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You’re one of those uniquely uninformed and stupid voters that should have their right to vote stripped away, but I won’t do that in the name of our constitution.



And likewise, you are easily the most misguided and emotionally driven male I have ever encountered in a political context. What of it?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:03 pm to
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I said nothing about silencing people. I said anyone that’s educated wouldn’t give a shite or pay attention to what any political commentator has to say.


Laughable that you think you are educated and people like Glenn Greenwald should be ignored. That’s a joke right? If not, what an embarrassment for anyone who graduated with the degree you had. They look at you like the Boston College Economics department must think of AOC.

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’d bet every dollar in my wallet that you and I have voted identically in every Presidential and Congressional election as long as we were both over 18


Please, let’s bet. I’m willing to bet you’d get it wrong.
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And likewise, you are easily the most misguided and emotionally driven male I have ever encountered in a political context. What of it?


That if you think we should ignore one of the greatest free speech advocates and journalists in our age that you’re a fricking idiot.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32270 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:03 pm to
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I said nothing about silencing people.



While telling a poster to not post about things you don't like.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:04 pm to
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While telling a poster to not post about things you don't like.



*ding*ding*
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:11 pm to
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Laughable that you think you are educated and people like Glenn Greenwald should be ignored. That’s a joke right? If not, what an embarrassment for anyone who graduated with the degree you had. They look at you like the Boston College Economics department must think of AOC.




I think their medium should be ignored, not their substance. Yes, I believe we have to reign back in the internet’s influence on political discourse.

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Please, let’s bet. I’m willing to bet you’d get it wrong.



Ok. List your votes then

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That if you think we should ignore one of the greatest free speech advocates and journalists in our age that you’re a fricking idiot.




What exactly is it that you think things like this will accomplish?

I respect you as a poster on this site and generally agree with most of your positions. I don’t understand how you don’t understand that the solution to much of our current problems lies in eliminating or systematically ignoring the negative aspects of modern political discourse.

I’m not your enemy.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:12 pm to
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While telling a poster to not post about things you don't like.







It is in fact possible to agree with the substance of a statement while simultaneously hating the medium and context of said statement.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:24 pm to
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What exactly is it that you think things like this will accomplish?



Greenwald exposed Snowden to the world and radically shifted the way people think. I suspected the government was doing stuff like that before, but Snowden changed the world. No, Greenwald is one of like 5 journalists actually left. He has to be protected. There’s a reason Tucker has Glenn on twice a week despite the fact they agree about nothing but free speech.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:27 pm to
On what platform does KO operate? How is this bafoon still around
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41065 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:30 pm to
Glenn Greenwald believes he is safer living in Brazil under Jair Bolsonaro than he is living in the United States. What does that say about the banana republic we call "the land of the free"?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:37 pm to
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Greenwald exposed Snowden to the world and radically shifted the way people think. I suspected the government was doing stuff like that before, but Snowden changed the world. No, Greenwald is one of like 5 journalists actually left. He has to be protected. There’s a reason Tucker has Glenn on twice a week despite the fact they agree about nothing but free speech.


I disagree with nothing in this post. Do you know what will be immediately disregarded by everyone who doesn’t already agree with the substance of Greenwald’s reporting?

Anything he says on Fox or a YouTube video. Beating the party drum and/or preaching to the choir holds no merit for me.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18179 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:38 pm to
Olbermann is such a good establishment dog.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62638 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:39 pm to
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I don’t understand how you don’t understand that the solution to much of our current problems lies in eliminating or systematically ignoring the negative aspects of modern political discourse.

Anyone can be ignored. That's the listener's choice. Banning them from speaking is not an equivalence.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22618 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Why did you make a thread with the sole purpose of giving an irrelevant media personality more attention?
Who are you again?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Glenn Greenwald believes he is safer living in Brazil under Jair Bolsonaro than he is living in the United States. What does that say about the banana republic we call "the land of the free"?


Honestly, it’s what I realized living in China. Save for murdering, raping, and starting a protest, I could do whatever the frick I wanted to over there. China was the modern day Wild West from say 2005-2015. Could do basically anything over there that I’d get arrested for back here. It was an absolute blast at the time.

We don’t live in the land of the free. We lived in the land of the 1st and 2nd Amendments, but we have authoritarian ball washing bastards trying to take that away and they’re on the verge of doing so. While I got out of there in time, the people that have remained behind in China have been fricked over by now. Really for me and many other people, I was tempted by the place in the same way Pinocchio was tempted by Pleasure Island. I left with donkey ears realizing what was going on before it was too late, but the remaining people turned into total jackasses.


Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:40 pm to
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Who are you again?



Likewise?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62638 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:40 pm to
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Greenwald exposed Snowden to the world and radically shifted the way people think. I suspected the government was doing stuff like that before, but Snowden changed the world.
Yup.

The same government that says "you don't need privacy, if you're not doing anything wrong" will put you in jail for applying that principle to them.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:42 pm to
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I disagree with nothing in this post. Do you know what will be immediately disregarded by everyone who doesn’t already agree with the substance of Greenwald’s reporting?

Anything he says on Fox or a YouTube video. Beating the party drum and/or preaching to the choir holds no merit for me.


Here’s my opinion on Glenn Greenwald: I’m sure he’d hate me simply on my Middle East stance since I tend to side with Bill Maher, Ben Shapiro, and Sam Harris on Middle East policy which he has had brutal feuds with all three of them (Harris in particular since Sam’s brother in law got in the middle of this), I think Glenn is the most important journalist living right now. I highly respect him even if I don’t completely see eye to eye with him.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35857 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:47 pm to
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I think Glenn is the most important journalist living right now.


He very well could be. However If whatever he reports is only captured by Fox and/or channels on the internet, it will be ignored and ultimately of no consequence.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:54 pm to
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He very well could be. However If whatever he reports is only captured by Fox and/or channels on the internet, it will be ignored and ultimately of no consequence.


Now you’re making my argument for me. If someone COULD be the most important journalist of his generation, then I think I have the moral obligation to tell people about him. I think we’re coming eye to eye now, right?
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