re: OK Libs, please have the stones to go on record:

Point out any crime statistics and libs are quick to say it is all due to socioeconomic factors. How curious it is that illegals are supposedly the most law abiding considering their socioeconomic class is below that of any American citizen. Their contradicting and muddled logic can’t stand up against the slightest scrutiny.

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I live in a big city with tons of illegals. Anecdotally, they aren't the ones that are in the news for most of the crime.

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Good for you!
But NOT anecdotally, there are people who have been assaulted, raped and murdered by illegals.

There are people who WILL be assaulted, raped and murdered by illegals.

The point of this thread is to point out the hypocrisy of those uncaring Libs who see those VERY REAL VICTIMS as no more that collateral damage and are ok with SOME rapes, murders and assaults as long as the invasion continues unabated.

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They're committing a crime simply by being in this country illegally, so 100% of illegal aliens commit crimes.

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Which is why the discussion is framed more properly in terms of “violent crimes” and “property crimes,” in which case the rates are demonstrably-lower ... by quite a bit.

The crimes you reference (even if you are wrong on the numbers) are “procedural crimes,” to utilize a term that seems to be popular among Trump sycophants.

This reminds me of NPR defending illegal immigration by saying " uneducated immigrants are a net drain on the government, BUT uneducated american citizens are also a similar burden". So obviously, if one is not good but the other is bad, then the former is OK.

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Aren’t these 100% true fact checked stats on illegal alien crimes based on a single town and extropolated nationwide?

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No.

How the hell does anyone know the accurate rate at which crime is committed by a group no one is allowed to count?

Illegal, undocumented, asylum seekers, whatever the label getting into the country around the immigration policy is a crime thereby they are all (100% of whatever number) criminals. That rate beats the worst of the worst citizens.

The claim that illegals are more law abiding (other than being in the country illegally, of course) is false. Below is from the Crime Prevention Research Center. Granted it only examines detailed data from Arizona but when I heard this guy explain it he went into great detail as to how the so-called study libs reference as a source inflates the denominator and reduces the numerator.

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Using newly released detailed data on all prisoners who entered the Arizona state prison from January 1985 through June 2017, we are able to separate non-U.S. citizens by whether they are illegal or legal residents. This data does not rely on self-reporting by criminals. Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens. Yet, there are several reasons that these numbers are likely to underestimate the share of crime committed by undocumented immigrants. There are dramatic differences between in the criminal histories of convicts who are U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants. Young convicts are especially likely to be undocumented immigrants. While undocumented immigrants from 15 to 35 years of age make up about 0.81% of the Arizona population, they make up almost 8% of the prison population. Even after adjusting for the fact that young people commit crime at higher rates, young undocumented immigrants commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens. These undocumented immigrants also tend to commit more serious crimes.

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This link Crime Research Org websitecan also get you to the full study with methodology and sources used.

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Anecdotally, they aren't the ones that are in the news for most of the crime.

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Here is another that is okay with some of the crime.

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Here is another that is okay with some of the crime.

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I never said that. I said that Republicans used scare tactics to exaggerate the crimes committed by illegals. That's pretty obvious.

Do you think two wrongs make a right?

Bingo!