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re: OH Snap, UN passes resolution to end Israeli settlements; US abstains

Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:56 am to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28093 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:56 am to
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don't blame Obama for once to not bend over and let BeBe stick it up his arse. For once, and for a short period of time,


Oh yea,he let Bebe stick it up his arse with that Iran deal...



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Thirdly, BeBe has relentlessly said "FU" to all past presidents (Republican and Democrat) and for 8 years has accelerated the construction of Isreali settlement in Jordan - otherwise known as the West Bank.


Otherwise known as Judea and Samaria and has a far deeper history with Isreal and Jewish history than Jordan,a country drawn up out of completely phoney
territorial boundries. The land was also captured as part of war that Isreal did not want or start.Should we
give So Cal back to Mexico?



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I am a firm supporter of Israel,


Love how ALL these post almost always start out with exact same sentence.




Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38576 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 9:56 am to
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Giving up land won't bring peace. They gave up Gaza and what did they get for it - attacks from Gaza.


There is the whole damn argument in a nutshell. No way the STATE of Israel wants, allows, or survives a Palestinian (I.e., Jew-hating, terrorist version) State just across a paltry fence from them. Everybody can just move on...until the *Palestinians* let go of their "right to return" bs, which in essence, means the Demographic end of the State of Israel. Just like immigration (read invasion) will change this Nation if allowed to the point that basic ethnicity/culture is "fundamentally transformed".

Mind games. Lawyers dodging around a faux-justice table. Going nowhere as is. The Sunni v Shia thing is going to light that place up anyway as soon as major parties nuke up. They they'll be one atrocity/provocation away from Armageddon.

Chewin on the same old rag.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:30 am to
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Maybe if we keep giving Israel money and acting as their muscle, they can teach us how to integrate females into our military.


Yeah, good point!
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:31 am to
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still have no idea why you are arguing with me


I'm informing you of the actual situation, which you have mischaracterized. I'm glad that we generally agree about what the US should do.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24075 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 10:37 am to
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No. It would be like Mexico taking back parts of the Southwest after a particularly brutal war in which both sides commit shameful atrocities. Then denying the conquered people basic opportunities, like education, employment, freedom of movement, and democratic representation to air their grievances. Finally, it would entail forcibly removing (i.e. ethnically cleansing) the people that have lived there for countless generations to make way for Mexican citizens with the most radical and nationalistic political views. If you didn't like it, your new, dilapidated neighborhood would be visited by one of the most well-funded and armed militaries in the world.



Hahaha

No.

Figured I should add some context even though your post honestly isn't worth any.

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conquered


What flavor of delusion must you accept to say that the country that was attacked is the conqueror?


This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3758 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 11:58 am to
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Can you give me the dumb people version of what happened?


UN passes resolution condemning any settlement activity in lands Israel did not control prior to 1967. This means any activity in the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem is illegal. Wailing Wall is not permitted Jewish territory. Countries could theoretically arrest anyone involved in "settler" activity in any land Israel did not control before the 1967 war.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112249 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 12:04 pm to
Obama and the United Nations just set the table for another Israeli war.

Good job fellas.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87881 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:22 pm to
Whatever your position on Israel, reasonable people should recognize the settlements are terrible.

Of course there are only a handful of reasonable minded posters here.
This post was edited on 12/24/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:27 pm to
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What flavor of delusion must you accept to say that the country that was attacked is the conqueror?



The attack on Isreal was stupid and wrong, but Israel did conquer new territory in that conflict, and have not yet settled the matter amicably with the people who lived there. They treat those people that live there like sub human trash, and seize their property with force on a regular basis in order t ethnically cleanse the land for Jewish settlements.

That has nothing to do with me, and Its a jewish/arab problem that the UN, US Iran have no legitimate business being involved with. I think it is wrong what Israel does, and i despise their government as I despise our government for invading Iraq.

as long as the US gives money to both sides and weapons to Israel, we should be concerned what Israel AND Palestinians do with the money. If people want to be angry, then be angry that the US is in the UN and that we are involved in Israeli/arab conflicts to begin with.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56638 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:29 pm to
We have a limp dick Muslim POS for a president!
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:31 pm to
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i will bet you money that this is Obama's plan that he's just contracting out to other countries to do


Jacob, I expect better out of you, son.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62500 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 1:43 pm to
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Whatever your position on Israel, reasonable people should recognize the settlements are terrible.
I'm sure if we just handed over Israel to the Palestinians, they wouldn't do anything to them. Just like... be neighbors and have the Jews over for coffee and stuff like that, right?

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Of course there are only a handful of reasonable minded posters here.
Good luck with that.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31250 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:11 pm to
I've never understood the blind support of Israel, why are so many so pro-Isreal and whatever it does?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
87881 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:23 pm to
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I'm sure if we just handed over Israel to the Palestinians, they wouldn't do anything to them. Just like... be neighbors and have the Jews over for coffee and stuff like that, right?


So just bc the other guys are horrible that justifies you being horrible? Great logic.
Posted by Beethoven
Member since Jan 2013
445 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:44 pm to
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Posted by Beethoven
Member since Jan 2013
445 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 2:49 pm to
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Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 3:02 pm to
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Chewin on the same old rag.

Your summary is what I've understood and watched since the 60's. No expert here, but anytime anything has been agreed to the fricking Palestine has just shot more rockets into Israel.

Anyone believing you can live peacefully along side these locos is nuts.
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
1811 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 3:38 pm to
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they are breaking international law


Hardly, Palestinians and Jordanians ceeded any right to East Jerusalem and the West Bank, after being literally annihilated by the IDF, in the Six Day War.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16625 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 3:43 pm to
Instead of Trump moving our embassy to Jerusalem, he should move it right into the middle of the territories.

The goat frickers would go crazy at that.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24075 posts
Posted on 12/24/16 at 5:31 pm to
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The attack on Isreal was stupid and wrong


Was? It never stopped.

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but Israel did conquer new territory in that conflict, and have not yet settled the matter amicably with the people who lived there.


It's not conquering when you defend yourself from a conqueror, regardless of whether you push their line back.

Why should anyone care that the loser aggressor likes the terms of their defeat?
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