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re: oh shite - Vance just said ICE officer who shot woman had been run over once already

Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93405 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:24 pm to
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And no one was run over in this incident.
only because he opened fire and she jerked the wheel the opposite direction after hitting him.

of course you don't see that either

Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:24 pm to
Yeah, that was after telling her to move out of the way. Seemed like conflicting orders that resulted in confusion.

Also, does ICE have the right to detain a legal citizen?
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:25 pm to
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They did this because of a reasonable suspicion she committed a crime.
fricking please
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Also, does ICE have the right to detain a legal citizen?


Yes. Good lord.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:31 pm to
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I just know that no thinking human being could justify this murder.



I can.

Here's the law:
Objectively Reasonable Force: Agents are instructed to only use force that is "objectively reasonable" in a given situation.

The situation was, a lady in a vehicle attempting to enter the street. She got halfway into the street and stopped while cars passed by her. The ICE agents car pulled up and stopped instead of going around her like all the other cars were doing. The ICE agents were pissed off that they had to go around so instead of doing so, they escalated the situation by stopping, getting out of their vehicle and charging her vehicle, grabbing the door handle and demanding that she get out.
There was absolutely no reason for the ICE agents to do that. They escalated the incident and caused the woman to panic and try to drive away.

If anyone has evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:33 pm to
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They ordered her to exit the vehicle. They did this because of a reasonable suspicion she committed a crime.
What crime can you commit sitting in your car waiting for traffic to move so that you can enter the street?
Posted by Goalpost
Member since Jan 2023
1295 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:36 pm to
Maybe idiots shouldn’t protest ICE rounding up Illegals.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:39 pm to
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What crime can you commit sitting in your car waiting for traffic to move so that you can enter the street?


You don’t know the basic facts either. Probably why you thought all three bullets went through the driver side window. opining with hubris from a place of complete ignorance is your forte.
Posted by CaptEasy
Panama City Beach
Member since Feb 2018
691 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Yeah, that was after telling her to move out of the way. Seemed like conflicting orders that resulted in confusion.


Only a low IQ lunatic would be confused over the police repeatedly ordering you to exit the vehicle NOW!

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:47 pm to
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What crime can you commit sitting in your car waiting for traffic to move so that you can enter the street?



You don’t know the basic facts either. Probably why you thought all three bullets went through the driver side window. opining with hubris from a place of complete ignorance is your forte.
Evading any and all questions is what you do best.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20024 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:48 pm to
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What crime can you commit sitting in your car waiting for traffic to move so that you can enter the street?


Quit whining and celebrate the fact that a Marxist is dead.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:49 pm to
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What crime can you commit sitting in your car waiting for traffic to move so that you can enter the street?



Quit whining and celebrate the fact that a Marxist is dead.
It's really a simple question. I wonder why is everyone so afraid of it?
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12756 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Also, does ICE have the right to detain a legal citizen?

Yes, interference is obstruction.
That’s a crime.
This was felony obstruction. It’s very serious, you might get shot.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Evading any and all questions is what you do best.


Your question was based upon a false premise. Get your facts straight then ask your question and I’d be happy answer.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 3:57 pm to
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Maybe you f@ggot unhinged douche bag leftists hysterically and hyperbolically crying about federal officers enforcing existing immigration law, calling ICE agents "Nazis," and "gestapo," and "fascists," and physically confronting them, physically obstructing them, if not outright aiming violence at them... if you would shut the frick up and stop being propagandized hypocritical TDS little bitches, that would help more than anything.

See, this is the crux of the situation. It has nothing to do with a woman allegedly breaking the law. It has nothing to do with freedom and liberty.
It's all about choosing a side and digging in your heels. It's left vs right. This is one side getting their pound of flesh. No regard for human life. Hell, no regard for the United States of America. It's about my team winning over your team.
This is the rotting of America from the inside..by design.
Who benefits? Who benefits from left fighting with right? Who benefits from that distraction?
Wake up and grow up people.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:00 pm to
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Evading any and all questions is what you do best.



Your question was based upon a false premise. Get your facts straight then ask your question and I’d be happy answer.
Thanks for clearly illustrating my point. Good job. Well done.
Posted by entmd2002
Lufkin, TX
Member since Dec 2010
430 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:04 pm to
To DavidGnome

Would you ever in any state of mind drive your car into the middle of law enforcement activities. If your answer is yes I would like to see you do it
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:04 pm to
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Thanks for clearly illustrating my point. Good job. Well done.


Your premise that she was simply trying to get through traffic and be in her way is false. It is an important fact to correct when the question is about criminal behavior. Of course, you’re too simple to realize that. You think you’re being witty using your false premise, but what it does is make your question unanswerable. Then you gloat you aren’t getting an answer. You aren’t smart enough to keep up. Get your facts straight and realize she was interfering with the agents carrying out their duties. That is a crime. Glad I could educate you. I was hopeful you could get there on your own….you couldn’t.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:05 pm to
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Maybe this guy should learn not to stand in front of vehicles


GFY
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20024 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 4:06 pm to
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It's really a simple question. I wonder why is everyone so afraid of it?


Stalking, inciting a riot and attempting to kill ICE agents.

She got what she deserved. It's a shame they didn't cap her dyke girlfriend along with her.
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