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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:19 pm to
If the Iranian people are unable/unwilling to fight their own opposition then the US; Israel and the Gulf States have come up short...ultimately, it belongs to them.

My fear is this: the head of the snake remains and it will be more fueled and fanatical than before - will wait out the DJTs and Bibis and will return with a vengeance

This nation fought a Civil War for its way of life going forward ... let the Iranians do the same
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 9:21 pm
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:30 pm to
The allies that correctly backed the hell away when they heard Israel's pitch to the US.

Assist in a blockade with no end in sight. Why would someone do that?

Iran isn't doing shite.
we're not going to invade or nuke them. what's left?

economic hardship isnt going to make the regime collapse or make the people there desperate enough to successfully revolt. not now, hasnt done it in 40 years. China and Russia are incentivized to keep this going.

feel free to quote me in 3 months, 6 months when the status quo hasnt changed.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by phaz
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:41 pm to
Doesn't Fuentes have a podcast you can watch?

Tucker always has something out
Posted by AndyCBR
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:44 pm to
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economic hardship isnt going to make the regime collapse or make the people there desperate enough to successfully revolt. not now, hasnt done it in 40 years


But killing off the radicals in their government can absolutely foster change.

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we're not going to invade or nuke them. what's left?


Destroy their military and remove their ability to develop a Nuke. The regime would have to topple from within.

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China and Russia are incentivized to keep this going.


China is incentivized to lose their cheap oil supply? Russia has bigger problems on their end.

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feel free to quote me in 3 months, 6 months when the status quo hasnt changed.


Bookmarked.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:45 pm to
These allies you think we have are compromised now. Look at Europe and tell me what you see now.

Evidently ppl like you believe or convinced yourself that you understand what needs to be the next move. I’ll trust the commanders in charge of the strategic planning and decision making. I’m pretty sure they’ve shown they’re more than qualified on surgical dismantling IRGC.
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:53 pm to
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I think people don't fully realise the full scope of Israel militarily aiding the UAE.

You see, this would be the first time Israel has aided an Arab country in such a way. Israel actually sent the Iron Beam to aid the UAE, which is Israel's latest tech. It's very new. That makes this all the more a very significant event.

I'm sure the UAE will not forget who militarily aided them when most others were only doing lip service.

This event will likely act as a trigger for the transformation of the UAE-Israel relationship and is expected to bring them much closer in the coming months.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:56 pm to

Trump is allowing the fractures between factions to widen. They are all hardliners in government. Some want to save their asses the others want to go down with the sinking nation like their religious sect dictates.

What cheap arse is worried about paying and extra $10 more to fill up at the pump. Maybe get a job and get out of your parents' home.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:09 pm to
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My fear is this: the head of the snake remains and it will be more fueled and fanatical than before -


Let's just accept the narrative for second.

What's more fanatical than a country that is attempting to get nukes, has proxies all over the Middle East murdering people, launches rockets willy nilly at its neighbors, and killed 10s of thousands of people just 3 months ago?

What do mean MORE fanatical than that? You see how that logic breaks down eventually? What's enough? 50,000? 200,000? 6 million?

The argument they can be more fanatical after this is probably the worst argument made against this operation.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
3074 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:14 pm to
Are you suggesting that because they could become more radical that we backoff?

What a dumbass thought if so

ETA: may have misread your post lol
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:15 pm to
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Are you suggesting that because they could become more radical that we backoff?


I think you may have to read that again my friend.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Tigerswillprevail
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:16 pm to
Agree
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:19 pm to
More than emboldened than ever because no future American President could do what DJT is seeking to accomplish. This isn't all about Iran, dominoes flying all over the place and we know this because we are witnessing in real time

So yes, more than they are now!
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:24 pm to
It's one thing to not believe Iran was doing these things in the first place, and now will be fanatical. I think that's wrong, but at least that logical.


But right now we have a huge group of people opposing action against Iran who agree that:

1) Iran helped kill a bunch of Israelis on 10/7
2) Agree Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon
3) Agree Iran has used proxies across the middle east to kill people
4) Agree Iran was pursuing a ballistic missile defense deterrent to protect #2
5 Agree that Iran supplies drones to Russia to kill Ukrainians
6) Agree that Iran leads a society that treats people, especially women like shite
7) Agree that Iran killed approximately 20-40,000 people 3 months ago


And those same people will then say, with a straight face, that this was will make them "more fanatical." what?

That's like saying don't stop the cannibal, if you don't catch him he's gonna get even crazier and start wearing people like a skin suit next!

They will also say that we should have taken a different non-war route, completely ignoring that's exactly what the US did for decades before.

That's why it's the worst argument.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 10:26 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 10:48 pm to
Bro. The Iranians went to the streets unarmed and got slaughtered in January knowing full well they could get killed. 40k+.

It's laughable to predict they aren't going to go even harder at them now, especially if they have some bang bangs, and boom booms.

It can't get worse economically.
It can't get more repressive.

It's literally bottomed out.

The only question that remains is how long can the IRGC hold on, and what kind of weapons has Israel and the CIA provide.

In fact, we'd be better off taking a poll. Will the Iranians be shooting more x95, M4A1, or AKs they stole over the last few months?

That's the big question.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 6:58 am to
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I’ll trust the commanders in charge of the strategic planning and decision making. I’m pretty sure they’ve shown they’re more than qualified on surgical dismantling IRGC.


OK, I’ll go along. But, I go along with a memory, and that memory includes the reality that we were in Afghanistan for two decades to eradicate the lil Taliban, and we were led by those same commanders in charge of strategic planning.
Posted by OccamsStubble
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:01 am to
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You see, this would be the first time Israel has aided an Arab country in such a way. Israel actually sent the Iron Beam to aid the UAE, which is Israel's latest tech


I’m betting that if you dug down deep you’d find that that technology was neither developed by or paid for by Israel.
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