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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:15 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:15 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:15 am to hawgfaninc
Oh please, spare me from another round of "negotiations" with Iran. How many times does Lucy have to pull up the football in negotiations before we stop trying to kick the ball?
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:59 am to TroutGuy
Then hear Trump tell declare nobody is even sure which one currently has the role of Lucy.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:26 am to FlyDownTheField83
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Not sure you understand how ridiculously stupid your argument is for the USA attacking Iran.
Who is the “cannibal”? It is not Iran. That would be the country in the Middle East that cannot get along with its neighbors. That would be the country in the Middle East that steals land from its neighbors. That would be the land that has snipers on the border that shoots children in the other country. That would be the land that corrupts US politicians with money, and if it cannot buy a politician then they buy their opponent.
Israel is the cannibal.
So you think Israel can't get along with its neighbors. I am pretty sure Iran has been attacking its neighbors daily for years. Hamas, Hezbollah, yemen etc.
Steals? Israel GAVE away land.
Snipers kids! Is that code for lobs missiles into Israel every day and forces civilians including kids to be there when Israel fires back at the launch locations. You know AFTER Israel informed the people there do leave so they wouldn't be collateral damage?
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:26 am to hawgfaninc
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CNN source on Iran nuclear talks:
Iran remains deeply distrustful of the U.S. Tehran says talks could resume if port blockades are lifted and the Strait of Hormuz is fully reopened. Iran is still unclear why previous talks in Pakistan collapsed.
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Iran is still unclear why previous talks in Pakistan collapsed
Not surprised CNN would run IRGC propaganda like this.Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:27 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:29 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:30 am to FlyDownTheField83
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Israel is the cannibal.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:35 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:37 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:13 am to BayouBengal51
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CNN source on Iran nuclear talks: Iran remains deeply distrustful of the U.S.
That's like saying a burglar is deeply distrustful of the armed homeowner. A pedophile is deeply distrustful of the child's father.
This is the part where CNN pretends the last 40 years never happened and spins the regime as the victim whose good nature and trust has been betrayed.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:36 am to Bronco11
It CAN get worse economically. That will be the beginning.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:14 pm to LARancher1991
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I mean we did defeat the Taliban. They were essentially eradicated in Afghanistan and no longer a threat. Afghanistan had elections and was becoming a country the could take care of itself. We couldn't stay there forever and it isn't a loss for the US that the Afghan military completely crumbled and couldn't hold on to their country.
Nation building doesn't always fit our vision of government and elecltions.
The Afghan military collapsed because Biden's crew of Marxist hens decided to bug out in the middle of the night and removed the airpower they were trained to depend on from the equation. Dumbest withdrawal ever.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:21 pm to LARancher1991
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I mean we did defeat the Taliban. They were essentially eradicated in Afghanistan and no longer a threat. Afghanistan had elections and was becoming a country the could take care of itself. We couldn't stay there forever and it isn't a loss for the US that the Afghan military completely crumbled and couldn't hold on to their country.
Taliban could cross the border into Pakistan easily. Pashtun tribes straddle the border and freely come and go. Astan is not that governable outside of Kabul and never really has been.
The military was trained to call in for air support. We stopped any air support.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:28 pm to BayouBengal51
Lots of good will come of this war. It made countries speed up oil export options. It pushed their hands because most sat idle under the threat of Hormuz being closed.
Interesting post:
David Blackmon
@EnergyAbsurdity
Great maps here showing the UAE's oil fields, geography, and its west-to-east pipeline, the Habshan-Fujairah oil line.
Map 1: Note the fact that UAE territory extends to the eastern side of the Strait of Hormuz, a vital reality which provides an ability to bypass the Strait.
Map 2: Note the pipeline, which runs 252 miles across the eastern half of the country.
The Habshan-Fujairah line has a nominal capacity of 1.5 million barrels per day. But the UAE points out it can carry as much as 1.8 million/day in special situations.
The line has been carrying about 1.3 million bpd in recent weeks, scaled back under the yoke of OPEC+ quota system.
As of May 1, the UAE will be able to ramp that up to export an additional half-million barrels of crude each day, enabling it to take advantage of the current high price environment while other Persian Gulf states are forced to scale back and even shut-in their production.
We should expect the UAE's next move to be doubling or even tripling the capacity of this vital artery to enable it to bypass the Strait altogether, thus robbing Iran of any ability to disrupt its future exports.
Interesting post:
David Blackmon
@EnergyAbsurdity
Great maps here showing the UAE's oil fields, geography, and its west-to-east pipeline, the Habshan-Fujairah oil line.
Map 1: Note the fact that UAE territory extends to the eastern side of the Strait of Hormuz, a vital reality which provides an ability to bypass the Strait.
Map 2: Note the pipeline, which runs 252 miles across the eastern half of the country.
The Habshan-Fujairah line has a nominal capacity of 1.5 million barrels per day. But the UAE points out it can carry as much as 1.8 million/day in special situations.
The line has been carrying about 1.3 million bpd in recent weeks, scaled back under the yoke of OPEC+ quota system.
As of May 1, the UAE will be able to ramp that up to export an additional half-million barrels of crude each day, enabling it to take advantage of the current high price environment while other Persian Gulf states are forced to scale back and even shut-in their production.
We should expect the UAE's next move to be doubling or even tripling the capacity of this vital artery to enable it to bypass the Strait altogether, thus robbing Iran of any ability to disrupt its future exports.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:33 pm to TroutGuy
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Oh please, spare me from another round of "negotiations" with Iran. How many times does Lucy have to pull up the football in negotiations before we stop trying to kick the ball?
Sigh
Yall still don't get it. There were multiple reason for the cease fire. NONE of them had anything to do with peace.
Reset the war powers act.
Provide better air defense for SA and UAE, Israel etc.
Rearm
Resupply
New rounds of intelligence.
Let the misery take affect inside Iran (IRGC)
So division by saying we are talking to people in Iran.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:34 pm to BayouBengal51
Good grief, if they are not armed by now its too late. They should have been armed the week of mass protests 3-4 months ago.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:39 pm to BayouBengal51
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"Because Iran primarily settles its oil sales in Chinese yuan, these exchange houses play a critical role in converting oil revenues into currencies that are more readily useable by the Iranian military and its partners and proxies."
BESSENT: "Iran is the head of the snake for global terrorism, and under President Trump’s leadership, Treasury is moving aggressively, through Economic Fury, to sever the Iranian military’s financial lifelines."
“We will relentlessly target the regime’s ability to generate, move, and repatriate funds, and pursue anyone enabling Tehran’s attempts to evade sanctions."
Bessent has been crushing it lately! Economic Fury in full swing
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:43 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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But right now we have a huge group of people opposing action against Iran who agree that:
1) Iran helped kill a bunch of Israelis on 10/7
2) Agree Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon
3) Agree Iran has used proxies across the middle east to kill people
4) Agree Iran was pursuing a ballistic missile defense deterrent to protect #2
5 Agree that Iran supplies drones to Russia to kill Ukrainians
6) Agree that Iran leads a society that treats people, especially women like shite
7) Agree that Iran killed approximately 20-40,000 people 3 months ago
Don't forget #8.
8) Agree that Orange Man Bad
In their minds, #8 trumps #1-7.
Posted on 5/1/26 at 12:46 pm to PsychTiger
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Q: "Do you want to go blast the hell out of them?"
TRUMP: "I'd prefer not. On a human basis, I'd prefer not. But that's the option. Do we want to go in there heavy and just blast them away? Or do we want to do something? They're a very disjointed leadership, as you can understand, Peter, very disjointed."
"I mean, they, they're not getting along with each other. And it puts us in a bad position. One group wants to make a certain deal."
"The other group wants to make a certain deal, including the hardliners. The hardliners want to make a deal too. Why wouldn't they? They have no Navy. They have no airports. They have no anti-aircraft. They have, they have no nothing."
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