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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:24 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:24 am to
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Discussions with countries, including our Gulf and Asian allies, about U.S. dollar swap lines are part of ongoing, routine conversations that @USTreasury has been having with our partners over a number of years. They are a testament to the U.S. dollar’s primacy and the strength of America’s economic shield.

Additional swap lines can benefit our nation by reinforcing dollar usage and liquidity internationally, maintaining smooth functioning in dollar funding markets, promoting trade and investment with the United States, and, in hypothetical stress scenarios, preventing disorderly sales of U.S. assets as well as disruptions to U.S. markets, businesses, and households.

Many of these countries have pristine sovereign balance sheets and large dollar holdings – larger than many major economies with whom we maintain permanent swap facilities. I applaud our allies’ foresight and watchful risk management by exploring additional financial buffers during periods of market quiescence.

Extending permanent swap lines can be a major first step in creating new U.S. dollar funding centers in the Gulf and Asia.

Dollar dominance and reserve currency status are strengthened by constant long-term initiatives, including countering the growth of problematic, alternative payment systems.

Under @POTUS, this is American Economic Leadership at work.
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:32 am to
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Mr. Phelan recently suggested to Mr. Trump that the Navy might have to rely on European shipyards to deliver the battleships


If that's true, the biggest flaw in Mr. Phelan's analysis was the assumption that we can depend on European shipyards. Europe has given us good reason to doubt their reliability.
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:35 am to
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Mr. Phelan recently suggested to Mr. Trump that the Navy might have to rely on European shipyards to deliver the battleships


So it was probably shipyard lobbyists that ensured his ouster.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:36 am to
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:43 am to
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So it was probably shipyard lobbyists that ensured his ouster.


Doubtful, but even if it was, they were correct. We should not rely on European imports for critical elements of our military capacity. We should start bringing those industries back home ASAP.
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Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:49 am to
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NEW: In the 39-day campaign before the Iran ceasefire, U.S. forces heavily used the 7 munitions below. For 4 of them, the U.S. may have expended over 50% of its prewar inventory. Rebuilding to prewar levels will take up to 4 years.


The Tomahawk is rather old and required what was once dedicated state of the art hardware chips to terrain map. Now, a good cell phone chip can do it and more on the hardware and software side for a tiny fraction of the cost.

Looks like those replenishment numbers are based on a leisurely peace time schedule.


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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:56 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:58 am to
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Touring for regional consultations, AKA looking for a good location to bug out to when the regime falls.
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:04 am to
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Looks like those replenishment numbers are based on a leisurely peace time schedule.



Any figure coming from a legacy media source should always be considered misleading or false until proven otherwise.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:06 am to
If any of that is true, our military is a paper tiger that isn’t capable of any sort of peer conflict or prolonged action.

How embarrassing that 40 days of strikes would deplete 50% of anything, much less our most used munitions.

Those prewar inventory levels are hilariously inadequate.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:08 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:14 am to
I'm not going to pretend to know what the right number is or I know anything about military production and logistics, but it seems to me we're never going to store enough munitions for a "prolonged peer action" because it's a monumental waste of money.

We're not going to carry WWII levels of inventory in the off chance we might need it. It's too costly and wasteful as technology develops while maintaining old inventory. If such a situation were to arise, I imagine the plan is to leverage our domestic production capabilities and speed up manufacturing timelines as needed.

Similarly, we wouldn't have the bodies for a peer fight either, and would draft soldiers.
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Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:16 am to
Also, remember that the US is the only country on the planet that consistently under reports stockpiles, strengths and capabilities.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:26 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:33 am to
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IDF WARNING: FULL LIST OF RESTRICTED AREAS IN SOUTHERN LEBANON

The IDF’s Arabic spokesperson issued a detailed warning naming specific towns and zones civilians must avoid. (MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF LEBANESE AND US GOVERNMENT)

Do not move south of this line: Mazraat Beit al-Sayyad
Majdal Zoun
Zibqin
Yater
Sribbine
Haddatha
Beit Yahoun
Shaqra
Majdal Selm
Qabrikha
Qrout
Zawtar al-Gharbiya
Yahmar al-Shaqif
Zrariyeh
Deir Mimas
Marjayoun
Ibl al-Saqi
Kfarkela
Deir Siryan
Aitaroun
Blida

Do not approach:
• Litani River
• Wadi al-Salouqi

Do not return to or enter:
Al-Bayada
Shama
Tayr Harfa
Abu Shash
Al-Jibbayn
Naqoura
Dhayra
Matmoura
Yarin
Umm al-Tut
Al-Zaloutiya
Bustan
Sajdine
Marwahin
Blida
Bint Jbeil
Aitaroun
Aita al-Shaab
Rmeish
Maroun al-Ras
Yaroun
Kounin
Debel
Qantara
Mais al-Jabal
Qalaa al-Shuqif
Rachaf
Dabbine
Houla
Markaba
Kfar Kila
Taybeh
Deir Siryan
Adaisseh
Tayr Debba
Khirbet Selm
Al-Khiam
Sarafand
Majdal Zoun

Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:34 am to
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We're not going to carry WWII levels of inventory in the off chance we might need it.

No one suggested that.

But if we are expending that high of a percentage of our staple munitions in a limited two month air campaign, we aren’t ready for anything whatsoever.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:40 am to
I would never rely on The Euro ship yards for large ships

Travel to the southern coast of South Korea where they assembly line very large tanker ships pushing out one per week. Build your basic ship and return it to American shipyards for tech build out.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:44 am to
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But if we are expending that high of a percentage of our staple munitions in a limited two month air campaign, we aren’t ready for anything whatsoever.


I don't know if you can extrapolate that. Frankly, we don't know much of anything from our position, but it's plausible we used a ton of them because we could. Iran can't stop us from hitting targets, so we're shooting them faster than we would against a peer.

If I'm playing basketball against a 3rd grader I'm gonna take 1,000 shots. If I'm playing against a NBA player I might get one... probably not

It doesn't benefit the US to NOT fire off at a high rate. I don't even know how you define "limited," we've hit thousands of targets.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:01 am to
The story that seemed to just disappear was the number of high quality dummy installations that fooled intelligence was surprising.
Consequently they significantly underestimated the number of strikes it would take to achieve their goals.

That doesn’t change the outcome, but it’s quickly becoming apparent it certainly stretched the operational timeline and will increasingly become a thorn in their side as the financial costs accumulate.
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