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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 4/11/26 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:01 pm to
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Diplomacy for us is the continuation of the sacred jihad of the defenders of the Iranian land. We have not forgotten and will not forget the experiences of America's breaches of promise and malicious acts. Just as we will not forgive the heinous crimes committed by them and the Zionist regime during the course of the second and third imposed wars.

Today was a busy and long day for the delegation of the Islamic Republic of Iran in Islamabad. The intensive negotiations that began from the morning of Saturday with Pakistan's benevolent efforts and mediation have continued without interruption until now, and numerous messages and texts have been exchanged between the two sides. The Iranian negotiators are employing all their capabilities, experience, and knowledge to safeguard Iran's rights and interests. The heavy loss of our great elders, dear ones, and fellow countrymen has made our resolve to pursue the Iranian nation's interests and rights firmer than ever before.

Nothing can or should deter us from pursuing our great historical mission toward our beloved homeland and noble Iranian civilization. The Islamic Republic of Iran is determined to utilize all tools, including diplomacy, to secure national interests and protect the country's well-being.

In the past 24 hours, discussions were held on various dimensions of the main negotiation topics, including the Strait of Hormuz, the nuclear issue, war reparations, lifting of sanctions, and the complete end to the war against Iran and in the region.

The success of this diplomatic process depends on the seriousness and good faith of the opposing side, refraining from excessive demands and unlawful requests, and the acceptance of Iran's legitimate rights and interests.

We express our appreciation to the government and the warm-hearted and noble people of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan for hosting the negotiations and their benevolent efforts in advancing this process.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Rainier Fog
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:05 pm to
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and I think there might be a portion of the strait which falls within their waters and not internationally.


Sounds like we need to bomb it until it is wide enough to have international waters
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:10 pm to
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prepare new texts.



Peace by group text.
This post was edited on 4/11/26 at 8:13 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:11 pm to
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I honestly thought this map was made up

Hundreds of supertankers, the kind that carry two million barrels each, are currently racing toward the US Gulf Coast from every direction. Atlantic, Indian Ocean, around Africa, the scenic route, the "we were heading to Saudi Arabia but NVM" route.

Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz and everyone panicked. Oil hit $126 a barrel. Gas hit $4 a gallon. Cable news did the thing where they put a red banner on screen and say "CRISIS" in a font that suggests you should be hoarding toilet paper.

And then something happened that nobody in media seems interested in reporting, for obvious reasons. The world just... switched suppliers? Like changing your internet provider except the internet provider is the entire effing global energy economy.

American oil exports are approaching record levels. Gulf Coast refineries are running at 95% capacity. Supertankers that were mid-ocean on their way to the Persian Gulf literally turned around and headed to Texas. That's not a metaphor. Ship tracking data shows them doing U-turns in the Indian Ocean.

Meanwhile China, which was getting 45% of its oil imports through Hormuz and paying basement prices for sanctioned Iranian crude, is now competing with Japan and Europe for the same expensive American barrels. Chinese manufacturers are already raising prices 20% on goods headed to the US.

So to summarize: Iran played its biggest card and the main result is that the United States became the world's emergency gas station and China's cheap energy subsidy evaporated.

This is either the most elaborate coincidence in the history of geopolitics... or someone planned the sequence Venezuela -> Iran -> profits!

I'll let you figure out which one
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:11 pm to
71 negotiators arrive in Pakistan from Iran. As the end of negotiations occur, 11 negotiators will return. The other 60 will relocate to France, Briton, Spain and Italy.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:12 pm to
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71 negotiators arrive in Pakistan from Iran.

I bet that group text is a fricking disaster and annoying as hell.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:15 pm to
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TroutGuy


TBoy alter.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by Shaun176
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:26 pm to
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Ww3 rolls on …?


This is what the Presidential power to impose emergency tariffs is actually for.
Posted by TigerMan327
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:41 pm to
Where are you getting this?
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:44 pm to
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This I’m [sic] no way a victory for this country.


Victory confirmed. Thanks Peej.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:53 pm to
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Reporter: Mr. Vice President, how often did you communicate with President Trump throughout the negotiations?

JD Vance: Obviously, we were talking to the President consistently. I don’t know how many times we talked to him, a half dozen times, a dozen times over the past 21 hours.

We obviously also talked to Admiral Cooper, to Pete, to Marco, to the entire national security team. We talked to Scott Bessent a number of times.

So look, we were constantly in communication with the team because we were negotiating in good faith.

And we leave here, and we leave here with a very simple proposal, a method of understanding that is our final and best offer. We’ll see if the Iranians accept it. Thank you.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 8:54 pm to
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U.S. Vice President JD Vance:

"The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement. And I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America. So, we go back to the U.S. having not come to an agreement. They have chosen not to accept our terms.
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