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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:04 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:04 am to hawgfaninc
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NEW: The CIA was able to locate and confirm it was the U.S. crew member on Saturday morning, I'm told by a senior U.S. official.
There was concern that despite the beacon signal, it was an Iranian trap.
"There was a lot at stake here," the official told me.
The CIA informed all relevant parties, including the Secretary of War, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and ultimately the President.
"Within 8 hours, we had planes in motion. Within almost 12 hours we were on the ground in Iran," the official added.
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Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:04 am to Penrod
quote:We spend a shite ton finding MIAs as well.
It was clear what he meant. He meant that the US might be the only nation in the world that would spend $300 million to save one man.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:05 am to hawgfaninc
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Fox & Friends: “Are you saying that the president told you that he sent guns—the U.S. government sent guns to the [Iranian] protesters via the Kurdish that the Kurdish kept some of the guns?”
Trey Yingst: “Correct, the president tells me the United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters earlier this year. He says, ‘We sent them a lot of guns. We sent them through the Kurds’ and he thinks that the Kurds kept them.”
“Remember the president made a commitment to the Iranian protesters who were in the streets of their country earlier this year… and he said ‘help is on the way.’ And we are learning as a result of this call with President Trump that he attempted to send guns to these protesters in order to fight back and defend them.”
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:06 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:06 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:07 am to prplhze2000
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We set the Kurds up to move on out. Unfortunately, the operation leaked and Iran moved forces into defensive positions. Trump called it off.
If you take everything Trump says, literally, you will lose almost every time.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:08 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:10 am to hawgfaninc
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During World War II, Hitler was convinced that Americans lacked the will to fight and that any who did would be quickly overwhelmed.
When early reports arrived from the battles in North Africa, German observers noted that Americans fought differently from the Europeans.
Rather than charging aggressively and risking heavy infantry casualties, U.S. forces relied on overwhelming firepower—staying at a distance and expending vast quantities of artillery with little hesitation. Thanks to unmatched industrial production and logistics, fresh supplies were always available.
This approach allowed relatively smaller American units to wear down much larger and well-entrenched enemy forces.
In contrast, German and other European doctrines often emphasized aggressive maneuver and were sometimes more willing to accept high casualties to achieve objectives or preserve key equipment.
This material-heavy American style surprised many Germans, including Hitler, who had long dismissed U.S. soldiers as soft and lacking in fighting spirit. He believed soldiers were cheap and expendable; he discovered too late that Americans fought to conserve lives by expending machines and ammunition instead.
It was one of many reasons for Germany’s defeat—perhaps the hardest for some foreigners to fully understand.
Americans place a high value on the lives of our soldiers. Equipment and shells could always be replaced.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:11 am to hawgfaninc
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As an Iranian watching this rescue mission unfold, I was praying the American pilot would make it out alive, not just for him, but so the Islamic Republic could not use him as a bargaining chip or claim some twisted “victory.”
At the same time, I felt a deep envy.
Your government sent elite special forces, million-dollar aircraft, and moved heaven and earth to bring one American home. No hesitation. No excuses.
In Iran, the regime uses human shields and recruited child soldiers to clear minefields during the Iran-Iraq war. They treat their own people like disposable tools. They are now recruiting child soldiers as we speak.
The Islamic Republic has zero regard for human life. That’s the brutal difference.
One side risks everything to save their own.
The other sacrifices their own to stay in power.
This hits hard when you have lived under both realities.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:12 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:15 am to hawgfaninc
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I’m up in the middle of the night and am about to go back to sleep. But seeing the news of this pilot being rescued after one of the most daring rescue operations in history has me motivated beyond belief.
To the media and the haters who’ve been obsessed with palace intrigue stories. Trying to sow division and calling for the heads of our leaders. I hope this news hurts. I hope it hurts a lot.
I have my finger on the pulse of the information machine these days. And what I’ve seen over the past 48 hours is the weaponization of said machine.
Bots, grifters, and partisan hacks all working in unison literally rooting for our failure. Rabid. Drooling. Damn near praying to satan for our own pilot to be killed or captured.
Hyenas, the lot of them. All cheering against America.
While they’ve all been groaning like demons for the heads of our leaders and warriors, people like @PeteHegseth, @SeanParnellASW and others have just been busily…. doing the job to get our guy back.
Nothing I type here will matter at 0300. But when the world wakes up in a few hours, it’ll see the fruits of merit based leadership at echelon. All the way down the chain.
An Airman safely home after evading capture for over a day. An epic rescue that will be remembered for generations. Millions inspired by the shear power and conviction of the United States military. And millions more disappointed by it, because they were praying for our national embarrassment.
I’m not sorry you’re witnessing a competent war machine in action.
I’m not sorry that our leadership will never leave anyone behind.
I’m not sorry for any hurt feelings caused by this.
Because you were never on our team anyway.
God Bless America.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:15 am to VOR
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Those that are anti- Iranian government are not likely to be pro-American
They are almost certain to be pro American.
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There’s no reason to believe that some of the population wouldn’t do so
This is true.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:16 am to hawgfaninc
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An Israeli source told Iran International that two Israeli commando units, Shaldag and Sayeret Matkal, took part in the operation to rescue the American pilot.
According to the source, the mission lasted about 36 hours.
The source also said a US helicopter came under fire during the operation but was able to return safely to base.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:17 am to WeeWee
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Excellent news. Almost time for the Persians to get rid of the IRGC once and for all.
I’m doubtful. If we transfer weapons to ANY middle east group, other than Israel, they are not likely to give them to whomever we designate. Instead they will sell them on the black market.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:18 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:19 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:20 am to hawgfaninc
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How the downed U.S. F-15E crew stayed hidden and connected behind enemy lines in Iran.
When the Strike Eagle was shot down, both crew members ejected. One was rescued quickly. The second — the weapons systems officer — evaded Iranian forces for nearly two days in hostile territory.
He didn’t rely on voice radio that could be easily tracked. Instead, he used the **CSEL** — the Combat Survivor Evader Locator.
Built by Boeing, this small, rugged device is attached to the pilot’s survival vest. It survives ejection and immediately provides secure communications.
Instead of talking, it sends short **encrypted data bursts** — location, status (“injured,” “evading,” etc.) — using frequency-hopping signals that are extremely difficult for enemies to detect or triangulate. It looks like background noise.
The CSEL links directly to military satellites, feeding real-time information to U.S. rescue teams while the airman stays silent and hidden.
Only when friendly forces are close does it switch to a mode that allows precise final guidance for the extraction team.
Thanks to this technology — and the incredible training of our pilots — even deep behind enemy lines, our warriors aren’t alone. They’re connected to the full power of the U.S. military rescue network.
American tech and bravery at work. Pray for our troops. God bless the United States military.
Source: Ynet News reporting on the CSEL system in the recent Iran incident.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:21 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:21 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:22 am to BayouBengal51
This is what would happen to our pilots if killed or captured.
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